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177 - My Secret Listbuilding Strategy, Even If You Don't Have Your Own Product

My Secret Listbuilding Strategy, Even If You Don’t Have Your Own Product

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Something cool I discovered while buying Marshmallow Mateys for my kids…

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...for me, I lead with my sexiest thing, so free book offers, webinars, things like that. After awhile, if you've been promoting something for a long, long, long, long time, it starts getting what we call ad fatigue, where the more and more people have seen it, it gets more expensive, so you have to change the ad, change the landing page, all sorts of the things, or what I like to do now is start putting in bridge pages, which are basically a squeeze page.


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Hey everyone, this is Russell Brunson. I'm out in the snow the day before Christmas, and we're about to lay down some Marketing In Your Car. All right everyone, we've been hoping, we've been praying, we've been wishing, we've been dreaming of a white Christmas and sure enough, Christmas is tomorrow and today we woke up and it is snowing.

We are having an official white Christmas. We didn't think we were going to get it, but we got it. I'm excited. I'm actually driving to the store because one of our family traditions for Christmas is, Santa brings every single kid their own box of sugar cereal. We usually eat super healthy all year round, but on Christmas day, we don't. That's a tradition we've had since I was a little kid. We use to do it when we were little kids, we would each get our own boxes.

Santa would ask what we wanted for Christmas, it wasn't never I want a pony or a bike. It was I want Marshmallow Mateys, or I want Lucky Charms. Eventually it morphed into everyone ... At first, the first few years it was all over the place cereals. Some people getting Cocoa Krispies, some getting Fruity Pebbles. It was all over the place. Eventually we all found out that the best is Lucky Charms. That became the staple. Then we found out that if you go to the generic brand, the Malt-O-Meal or whatever, you can get the big old bags of Marshmallow Mateys which are basically like Lucky Charms only it's in a huge bag at half the price. You're getting twice the cereal and Santa Claus is basically hooking you up for a lot longer.

We’d each, by then… the last 10 years of my childhood, we'd each get our own bag of Marshmallow Mateys. The huge old bags, right? What we would do Christmas morning is, we would get a big old salad bowl out, fill the whole salad bowl full of Marshmallow Mateys. Then we eat out all the oats and not eat the marshmallows. If you ate a marshmallow you lost. We would eat the whole oats, and it's like an hour long process.

By the time it was done, you got a big ole salad bowl full of milk and marshmallows, and it's pretty dang amazing. Then we eat those down, and that's Christmas. Christmas isn't Christmas without cereal. I'm going to get cereal right now for myself and my kids, and yes, Santa Claus is bringing me my very own bag of Marshmallow Mateys and I'm not going to share with the kids. It's going to be awesome. Anyway, I wanted to share with you, because I was thinking as I was driving here, I don't know if it's the same for you guys, but my brain feels like it's this track where it's always moving forward and looping things and ideas are coming in and out and every once and a while one's exciting.

I had one while I was driving. I wasn't planning on doing a podcast, all of a sudden, this was like, "Oh crap, this is a good idea!" I'm going to share with you guys, and I'm going to be doing it. It's been interesting, a lot of people that I work with are trying to create lead magnets and all this crap. I feel bad because if you remember a year ago or a few years ago, Ryan Dice and Perry Belcher came out with this whole "This is what a funnel is. You have to have a lead magnet, then a tripwire, then a core offer, then return maximizer," and all this stuff, right?

Which is kind of true but kind of annoying because now everyone that I talk to is like, "Oh, this is my lead magnet. This is my core return maximizer offer," and all these things, and it kind of drives me crazy because I don't know. I hate when people act like business is 100% cookie cutter because it's not. Everything's a little different. People are like, "Russell, how come you don't have your ... Why aren’t you driving traffic to a lead magnet? Why are you driving directly to your free book offer?"

I'm like, "Because my free book offer gets three times conversion opt-ins as do any kind of lead magnet." Someone else, one of our coaching clients last week, they had this really cool funnel that some people built for them and their lead magnet was boring. It was costing them $18 to get an opt-in. Then, their tripwire was not that cool. Their core offer ... This is all based on their philosophy ... was awesome. I was like, "Dude, get rid of all the other crap and sell the core offer.

That's what people want. Why would you hide your sexiest thing, the thing that's going to get people to actually respond to your ads? Make that the offer." He's like, "But I thought I had to have a lead magnet and a tripwire," and all this crap. Anyway, so there's my little rant for the day. You don't. You've got to find the coolest thing that's going to get people to respond and that's what you lead with. Always. Sorry, that rant wasn't supposed to come up either, but there it is.

Anyway, with that said, for me, I lead with my sexiest thing, so free book offers, webinars, things like that. After awhile, if you've been promoting something for a long, long, long, long time, it starts getting what we call ad fatigue, where the more and more people have seen it, it gets more expensive, so you have to change the ad, change the landing page, all sorts of the things, or what I like to do now is start putting in bridge pages, which are basically a squeeze page.

A page to get somebody interested and get their email address and then we can follow-up with them and sell them the main things we want to sell again. The problem is it's kind of a pain to go and create all these op- in pages and lead magnets and all that jazz, right? I was thinking. This is what spurred this whole podcast. I was driving here and I was thinking about a blog post that Steven did. Steven is our blogger over at ClickFunnels. He was on an episode of Marketing In Your Car. He's from Australia, he's awesome.

He wrote this one, it was 14 Tools for Funnel Hacking. Something awesome like that. It was a blog post. I was like, "Crap, dude, that should be an opt-in page." "Hey, who wants the 14 best tools for funnel hacking? Opt-in here." They give me their name and email address. I redirect them to the blog. Now I've got them on my email list. I can sell them Click Funnels, I can sell them whatever else I want, right? I was thinking how easy is that? I don't even have to create this content.

I can go to Youtube, find the videos in my market that get the most views and that video can be the opt-in. I'm like, "Hey, free video at Robert Kiyosaki, telling you why" blah blah blah blah blah, whatever. People opt-in. I send them the Youtube video of Robert Kiyosaki talking about whatever, and then boom, now I've got them on a list and I can start selling them my stuff. Isn't that easy? One of my big a-ha's I learned from Neil Patel when he came out here to Boise is that ... I used to think he was writing blog posts based on keywords or whatever, and he's like, "No, I go to, I search my keyword, I find out what articles are already being shared and I write another article almost identical to those."

I was like, "Oh, that makes a lot of sense." Just go to, find the articles in your market that have been shared 100,000 times and have 18,000,000 reads, and that might be something that people in your market are interested in, so why not just make this landing page offering them that blog post for your email address. Use the same title that they're already using because it's proven to work, and boom, now you've got these new lead magnets. I hope you guys got that because it's pretty powerful. I'm going to be busting out a crap-ton of landing pages here that aren't going to take hardly any time at all, and all they'll do is opt you in, redirect you to that landing page and then you'll be added to my list and I'm going to sell you cool stuff that you need and want.

This works in other markets, too. Let's just say you're a brand new beginner. You've got nothing, right? Let's say you're like, "Hey, I want to be in the ..." What's a cool market? You want to be in the almond milk making business and I say that because this morning I made almond milk, which is awesome. I've never made almond milk before but I did it and it was one of the coolest things ever. I don't think there's really a market for that, but let's just pretend like there was because there should be because it's amazing.

It tasted way better than regular almond milk and it's not going to kill you because there's some ingredient in regular almond milk you buy at the store that will kill you all. Just FYI, learn how to make your own. It's really fun. You have to buy a $6 sprouted seed bag or nut bag or something. That sounds horrible. Anyway, that's the only thing you need is that and almonds.

Anyway, it's pretty awesome. For a $6 investment, you can make your own almond milk. All right. Back on track, Russell. Sorry, my ADD brain is flying. The snow is not helping. The thought of Marshmallow Mateys is keeping it going. All right, so sorry you guys. I'm sorry I'm putting you through this. Back to focus. We decide we want to go into the almond milking market. We want to sell the crap out of people who want to learn how to milk almonds.

First thing we want to do is go to and we search almond milk and we find out that there's this blog post that they say has been shared 150,000 times about how to make your own almond milk. People are going nuts about almond milk. I go to and I find four more products about how to make almond milk, almond cake, almond flour, almond blah blah blah and I'm excited.

Then, I go to Click Funnels, I set up a really quick landing page that's called Almond Milking Secrets and then I'll have a little thing underneath it from Meet the Parents. It'll have that little clip where what's-his-name is like, "I can milk anything with nipples," and then the other dude's like, "Well, can you milk me, Focker?" I'll have that clip underneath the thing so it'll be funny and will make it go more viral. I'll have an opt-in.

Then, boom, I'll go to Facebook. I'll target almond milking people, and they see this landing page saying, "Hey, here's my almond milking secret." There's this funny video from Meet the Parents. They opt in, boom, I redirect them to the exact blog post article that already has a billion views because you know that's what people want. I've got a follow-up sequence now where I start selling them almond milking products, almond making flour, almond making whatever else. Now I'm in the almond business overnight.

Now people are buying. Now I can ask them what they want and I can make my own product. Boom, now I've got a huge business. You see how that works? That's for the almond market. Imagine if we did that in a market that was actually making some money. It’d be pretty cool, right? Anyway, I hope that helps because this is a strategy you should use no matter what. If you don't have a business yet, this is how you could start a business very, very quickly.

If you do have a business, go out there and find all the viral, crazy articles in your market. Blog posts, Youtube videos and things like that, and just ask for name and email address. Share those with people and boom, you're in. There you go, guys. That's what I've got for today. Hope that helped. I'm jumping in to go and get my cereal and I will talk to you guys all again maybe tomorrow. Who knows? If not, we'll talk to you guys soon. Thanks everybody. Bye!


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