Kaelin Poulin sharing her presentation from Funnel Hacking Live about identity shift.
On this episode we hear from Kaelin Poulin during Funnel Hacking Live talking about identity shifts and getting your customers to be a part of your community. Here are some of the awesome things Kaelin talks about in today’s episode:
-- Why it’s important to care about your customer.
-- Why you need to have an “I am” statement and manifesto.
-- And why you need to give your customers a cape.
So listen here to this awesome presentation from Kaelin Poulin about how to to build your community by giving your customers an identity shift.
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What’s up everybody? This is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to
the Marketing Secrets podcast, I’m so excited to have you guys
back. The last episode I talked about identity shifts and how it’s
helping me in my life, and about how we try to orchestrate these
things inside of the lives of our customers and businesses as well.
Today’s episode I’m going to actually let you guys listen in behind
the scenes of Kaelin Poulin’s presentation from Funnel Hacking Live
a couple of years ago, where she talked about the identity shifts
that she creates for her customers. And if you wonder about why
they’re so success, on top of all the other amazing things they do,
one of the biggest reasons is this.
They are the best in the world at getting the women who come
into their programs to have an identity shift. And what’s crazy is
I’ve had a chance to see this first hand with Collette, my wife.
She got into LadyBoss, started buying her supplements and going
through the things. And I watched my wife as she started taking on
these identity shifts as well, so that’s been really fun to watch
her and her growth.
But it all comes back to Brandon and Kaelin orchestrating these
things from the very beginning, and how they weave them into their
community and what they’re doing. And it’s such a powerful lesson.
With that said, we’re going to load up the theme song, and when we
come back, you guys will have a chance to listen in behind the
scenes of Kaelin Poulin’s presentation on the identity shift from
Funnel Hacking Live.
Kaelin: You guys are awesome. I love your energy, we’re going to
have some fun today. A couple more beards than I’m used to seeing
in my audience. So first of all, thank you Russell for letting me
take over your stage today, that takes a brave man, a very brave
man. And you know, what’s really cool about the things that I’m
going to show you today, is some real tactical things of how to
have the identity shift for your customers to build a culture and
community that you want inside of your business.
And I know it’s funny when you hear that, you get like one
“whoo” like, “Whoo.” like one. But what I’m going to show you, you
guys know a lot of the numbers, you’ve seen a lot of what we’re
doing, but this right here is the foundation to all of that. This
identity shift here is what causes your customers to buy from you
over and over and over again, and love doing it. So are you guys
ready to see that today?
Okay, well first of all, I just want to tell you, because a lot
of you see it now, you see the Two Comma Club awards, you see you
know, the award that we’re giving later this week. And it’s like,
“Oh yeah, it’s easy for them where they’ve done it.” But I just
want to tell you, 3 years ago I was sitting in your seat at our
very first event. We got, when we first go Clickfunnels, it was so
funny, we were transitioning out of our old business and we were
broke. And when I say broke I mean like, we didn’t know if our card
would go through at the grocery store broke. Missing car payments
broke.
So I just want to tell you that 2 ½ years ago we were sitting in
your seat and this is possible. And the numbers I’m about to show
you are possible for every one of you. But the first thing you have
to do is do what Russell says. And the second thing you have to do
is do what Kaelin says. Just kidding, that’s just what I tell my
husband.
But anyway, Brandon, I’m up here today, but Brandon is the one
that runs all the operations of LadyBoss, he’s the one that makes
everything happen, he herds me along. So all this about funnels,
he’s the one that’s done all of that. So I’m the one who gets to
stand up here for us today, because I’m talking about culture and
community but I just want you all to know, he’s the one that runs
the entire back end. All of the operation. You know I would just
steal the mike anyway, so he just let me do it.
Alright, so I just want to start out by saying that anybody can
sell something once. Anyone can fire off a PDF and do a webinar and
sell something once, but today I’m going to show you how to get
your customers to buy from you over and over and over again, and
they’re excited for you to sell to them. How many of you guys want
to know how to do that?
Because here’s the thing, you can make a million on a webinar.
You can throw PDFs at people and then run away like you never want
to talk to them again, but what I’m going to show you today is how
you build a real business and how you make a huge impact. And I
can’t wait to see all of you guys implement all of this stuff,
because you guys are implementers right? Alright let’s do it.
So here you go, the first thing you have to know is that these
are customers, these aren’t only your customers, these are real
people, and it’s your duty to continue to sell to them over and
over and over again. And the reason why you’re going to need to do
all the things I’m getting ready to show you is because what
happens if you don’t sell to them? What happens if you don’t resell
them on you and your products? They go back to the old way, right.
What happens if I wouldn’t have resold Tamera on LadyBoss? She’s
lost 130 lbs now or something, it’s crazy, but it’s because I
continue to resell her.
So for me it’s the difference between life and death of my
customer. If I don’t resell them on LadyBoss, if I don’t resell
them on themselves, that’s the difference between life and death.
What is it for your customer? Is it cars being repo’d because if
they don’t further their business what happens? Is it their family
not eating? What’s the repercussion of not following through on
what you said you were going to do for them?
Because anybody can sell something once, guys, but you always
have to have in the forefront of your mind that these are real
people. And they’re counting on you, and they’ve chosen to put,
they have chose to choose you so now you have to choose them
back.
There’s a reason why we’ve helped 1.2 million women, there’s a
reason why all types of women are getting our brand tattooed on
their bodies. There’s a reason that our average supplement
buyer stays 8 months. There’s a reason why we go live with a new
piece of apparel and it sells out in 18 minutes. There’s a reason
we convert 10% of every single email we collect into a customer.
There’s a reason, literally right here, Chris will tell you, we
eclipse any other email marketer. There’s a reason why we get these
open rates. There’s a reason why we have 40 thousand paid members
in a community, paid members in a paid community. There’s a reason
why we have 1.2 million unique engagements in that paid group each
month. There’s a reason why 50% of them are active in this
community every single day.
Did you guys hear that? Every single day. What if you were
having a conversation with your customers every single day and they
were getting value from you every single day. There’s a reason why
83% are active in our community every month, right. There’s a
reason why when I do a Facebook live, my customers get on and sell
for me. I’m going to show you guys how to do all this okay.
There’s a reason why I went from 0 and broke and not affording
groceries and missing car payments 3 years ago to now an 8 figure
business. And here’s why, culture. Write this down, culture. You
hear Russell say it all the time, cult-ture. And I’m going to kind
of turn it on your head for you today, because a lot of think it’s
not a big deal. I’ll just do a couple things, and we kind of
overlook this.
How many of you guys would honestly admit that you’ve overlooked
the culture and community part of your business? Be honest. Because
it’s more about just the things that you put in line, it’s more
about just you. You don’t create the culture in your business,
every single day your customers do, every single person you choose
to put on your team creates that culture for you. Every support
person that you have, every person that’s in contact with every
single one of your customers, every affiliate that you have. That’s
why everyone can’t affiliate us, right, because we know that every
single face that represents LadyBoss has to represent our culture,
they have to represent the things that we believe in.
So right now I’m going to show you phase one, this is how you
attract your culture. I’m going to show you the identity shift, but
this is the first piece. Because without this, we can’t take them
through the identity shift process. So write this down, attractor
culture. This is the foundation of your community, the foundation.
If there’s one thing that you get from this, please do this next
piece.
Because you have to divide your customers upfront, okay, from
the crowd. You have to hand pick who they’re going to be. I see too
many people nowadays that are trying to get everyone. I want every
woman of all different places, and it’s so not true. You have to
divide your community upfront, or else they will divide themselves
inside of your business. They will divide themselves inside of your
groups, inside of your community.
So you have to hand select, this is like getting to pick the
dodgeball team in elementary school. Do you guys remember? It’s
like you had your friends, but you’re like, ‘I really want that
person on my team because I don’t want them hitting me in face with
a dodgeball.” That’s exactly what this is like.
So I’m going to have you make a t-chart real quick. Everyone
make t-chart on your paper. And today you’re going to draw a line
in the sand of who you want and who you don’t want. This is your
club. You get to pick the people and you don’t have to feel bad
about it okay. Because when you do this, when you pick who you want
and don’t want, do you know what happens? It allows you to be the
real you. I see so many people nowadays with a big community and
customers, and it’s like, they’re afraid of their customers, and
they’re afraid to talk to their customers and everyone’s fighting
and things are divided and they can’t even choose a side, because
they don’t want either side of their customers to be wrong inside
of their community.
So when you do this, this allows you to have a group, a culture,
a community, customers that you love, that love you, that think
like you, that want to be you. But unless you divide them, you’re
going to have everyone. You’re not just going to have the you’s.
you’re going to feel trapped. You’re going to feel like you have to
hide from your group.
So here’s an example of mine, because if you don’t divide
every one of these people on the outside, if you don’t choose in
your ads the messaging you use, what you wear, how you act, your
energy, everything about you, it’ll kill your culture in your
business. Because they’ll start choosing sides inside of your
group, they’ll argue about these things, they’ll fight each other.
So these are the people, this is how you attract the right
people.
What’s really cool about this too, is it allows me to be me. So
I don’t ever have to apologize or say that I’m hiding under a rock,
or feel afraid. I can go in my group and I can pray for people. I
can go on a live in my community and pray for people, and I feel
comfortable doing that, because that’s the culture and the
community that I’ve created, because I can be me.
So you guys need to do this first off. Alright, let’s take them
through the identity shift, are you guys ready for it? Here’s phase
2, phase 2 is the actual identity shift, okay. So this is the part
where now that you’ve attracted the right person, we have to step
them out of their old identity and we have to step them into their
new identity. That’s what LadyBoss is, we give them the confident
alter ego to step into, but first you have to create what you want
that identity to be.
So right now I just want you to write down a couple of things. I
want you to rewrite down, it can’t be the “Me show”. I made this
mistake in the beginning. Our brand used to be me as Kaelin, but
all our customers, they can’t identify with being me, they see me
as the guru, they see you as the guru, they can’t relate to you,
they’re like, “I’ll never be like her.” So know that it can’t be
the “You show” so know that you have to come up with a name, you
have to come up with a “I am a…” statement. Like, “I am a
LadyBoss.” It’s an identity that we can move them into. So you need
to come up with this first thing. Come up with a word, or two
words, where it’s like, “I am a LadyBoss.” “I am a funnel hacker.”
“I am a ….” Fill in the blank with yours here, because this is
going to help them have that shift when they come into your
business.
And next we’re going to create the manifesto. So why this is
really important, is now that you’ve given them a name, now that
you’ve said, “You’re not Kaelin, you’re not overweight Kaelin
anymore that’s 65 lbs overweight. You’re now confident, you’re a
LadyBoss, this is who you are.” We’re started step them into, we’re
starting to transition them through this identity shift. The second
piece of this is the manifesto.
Spend time really thinking about who you want and thinking about
who you want them to become. So with the manifesto, literally all
that I did, my husband hit record on his phone and he was like,
“What does it mean to be a LadyBoss?” and I went on for like 25
minutes, probably all in one breath of air, and then we took that
and had the good parts transcribed into what is our manifesto, and
this is what women read over themselves. When they first join our
community, when they first become a customer of LadyBoss, they
print this out, they put it on their mirror, they hang it
everywhere. We have shirts with our manifesto on it, because it
reminds them, “I’m not that old self anymore that gives up. I’m not
that woman that complains anymore. I don’t naysay. I spread
sparkle. I take action. I’m no BS. I will get it done. I will do
whatever it takes.”
So you have to create a manifesto because without that you’re
trying to move them into an identity, but you haven’t told them
what that identity is. So spend some time developing a manifesto
for your community, for your group because this the lifeblood of
your group. They will become what is written on this sheet of
paper. So it’s really important that you don’t just throw it
together, or take mine. That’s not your customer. Sit down and
write, who are you, what was the transition you made, what were the
big aha moments, what did you need to know?
And then you can do some other cool stuff. Like what we do, we
do all kinds of phone screen savers, we put it everywhere, we give
them desktop savers. We make shirts with this on it. Because every
time they open their phone now, it reminds them that they are a
LadyBoss. These are the things that I do as a LadyBoss, this is who
I am now. And as you’re taking them through this identity shift, do
you see how they’re started to connect to me? Because after I’m
moving them out of their old self, as I’m moving them into
LadyBoss, what’s happening? They’re becoming connected to me,
right. Their new identity is connected to me, which is a good
thing, but only like the first slide I showed you, only if you’re
willing to commit to help that person. Because now that you’re
putting it and injecting yourself into their life, you have to
commit just as much as they do.
So the next thing, now is where you’re going to step them into
it. So we developed something really cool that’s called the
personal power statement, and this is a blank statement I’m going
to show you here. This is a blank, fill in the blank statement. So
using your manifesto, you will create a personal power statement
that your customers will read to themselves every single day. They
will fill in their struggles, they will fill in their why, they’ll
fill in their goal.
So when they read this statement to themselves, they’re saying I
am a LadyBoss and I never give up and I’m going to get this done
because I want to be around for my children. Here’s one filled in.
Can you guys see how powerful this is, your customers reading this
over themselves everyday? When your clients are reading this to
themselves?
And you’re not only shifting their mindset about them, but
you’re shifting your mindset about them into your identity that
you’re giving them. So it’s like you’ve created the framework of
who they are becoming. And I just want you to know, be very careful
with these words, because if you start telling people, “I don’t
listen to anybody and I do my own thing, I’m going to take over the
world.” What’s going to happen inside of your community? Right,
just know these words are very powerful, choose them wisely.
The next thing you’re going to do is give them their cape. So
now that you’re creating little super heroes, you’re going to give
them a cape. And what this does is, now not only have you given
them the statement that they’re going to read over themselves,
you’ve given them a new identity. Can you guys think about your
customers right now that you have, or potentially that you want to
have, think about what the things they struggle with most, and what
you struggled with most, and how can you take those and turn them
on their head, to turn them into those statements, to turn it into
the manifesto, to come up with the things that they need to say
over themselves, to come up with the things that you know that they
are going to feel self conscious in those areas, or they’re going
to have pitfalls, you can see them coming.
So now that we’ve done all that, we’re going to give them a
cape. Do you guys like super heroes? Yeah, awesome, me too. So this
is where we have LadyBoss swag. And a lot of people think like, “Oh
yeah, it’s cool you guys have apparel line, clothing, all this
stuff.” And I’m like, “No, it’s not clothing. It’s a cape.” It’s a
cape. Are you guys seeing where I’m going with this? Because every
super hero has a cape and when they put it on they become
different. They all have these really cool outfits. And Superman
goes in the telephone booth and comes out and he’s Superman. Is it
Superman or is it the cape? You’re not really sure, right.
Your community will be the same way, so now that you stepped
them into this new identity, when you give them the cape, it
reminds them every single day of how empowered they are to do them
what they need to do. It reminds them of what you have done for
them. It reminds them of their journey and where they’re at, and
that they can keep moving forward.
And you can just see, these women, these are never women, these
are women who would have never taken pictures of themselves before,
women that were terrified of taking pictures, look at them now.
They’re doing photoshoots in their swag. It’s their cape, because
each time they put it on and why this is important is that they’re
proclaiming their identity in you. They’re proclaiming every time
they put it on, “I’m a LadyBoss. This is who I am.” It’s like
saying, “I’m American.” Or saying “I’m a U of L fan.” Now it’s part
of their identity, it’s who they are and it’ll help them do the
impossible.
And what I mean by that, this is a picture of swag that was
actually posted in our community, and she was having to learn how
to walk again. So she said that her husband brought her this shirt
every single day that says, ‘Nevertheless, she persisted.” Every
day, to wear it because it motivated her to get up and try to walk
again.
So with your identity shift, what are the tools that you can
give them? Write this question down. What are the tools that I can
give them? Because even though our businesses are different,
they’re not. It doesn’t matter if you have 5 people or 500 people
because it starts with you and that group. And then the reason why
LadyBoss has grown so big, it’s not because of the name, I see all
these bosses everywhere now, but it’s not because of the name, it’s
the identity. It’s how they feel, it’s the culture, it’s the
community. And what happens is they become a new person. They
become a new person, but guess who they’re connected to now? You,
right.
So it doesn’t matter if you have 500, if you have 5 million, if
you 5. And it’s never too late to implement this. We were 2 years
into our business before we implemented this. But what’s amazing is
they just continue to take that step forward with you. And the more
you can give them the identity as a LadyBoss, the more you can give
them the identity of your I am statement, the closer they become to
you. The more engrained they become to you, the more they’re
stepping into this identity, this coat that you’ve put on them, and
they’re walking in it. They’re walking in it.
And it can’t be separated, because once you’ve bonded something
to a person in their identity of who they are, it’s there forever.
So if you want the key to how to make your customers buy from you
over and over and over again, this is it. Because it’s not because
they buy, because it’s like, “oh my gosh, we can’t wait for the
next product.” right. They buy because they’re a Ladyboss and they
know that they have to take the next step with me. They know that
they need the next thing to go to the next level. They buy the
clothes because it’s part of who they are, because they’re proud to
rep that name, because it makes them feel good about
themselves.
So you constantly have to think and write down and list out,
what are the tools that I can give them? Where are they lacking
that I can help build them up? What are their things that are going
to make them feel motivated, inspired to do what they need to do to
get results? Because that’s the thing, if they’re motivated and
inspired to get the results, you get those results, right.
So the identity shift, it is the key. It’s the key to getting
your customers to buy from you over and over again, and there’s a
couple of things that I want you to remember. So write these down,
if you take anything away from this.
Care about your customer. You guys got that? Say, “care about
your customer.” Say it like you like them guys, “Care about your
customer.”
The second thing is create your t-shirt. Who do you want and
who do you not want? This is very important. You want to have
mini-you’s right. You don’t want to have people that give you
headaches or make you feel like you’re in battle all the time with
your customers. You guys want to be one team, one unit.
The third thing, create the I am statement and create your
manifesto. And this should take you some time, really think it out.
And don’t just grab what someone else is doing. Really think, who
am I? What do I want? What are the customers I want? What do I
believe? And use all of that to create your I am statement and to
create your manifesto.
The last thing you’re going to do is create your power
statement and then give them a cape.
So every time a new customer comes in, guess what happens, every
fulfillment email, every fulfillment email it’s like, “You’re a
LadyBoss now. Forget all the stuff you used to do and your bad
habits, and the obstacles you had. You’re a LadyBoss now and this
is how you deal with it. You take action, you never give up, you
don’t complain, you take no BS, you spread sparkle, you’re
unstoppable, you’re a LadyBoss.”
So every single customer that comes in with us, we give
them a new identity. We give them this identity shift and then
they’re able to say, “You know what? I’m a new person.” And then
every day we help them take that next step into being a LadyBoss,
that next step into being more confident, that next step into their
weight loss journey.
So can you guys see how this will fit with your business? And if
you can’t, you just need to think a little harder, get a little
more creative. So there’s a phase three that I can’t get to today,
and I know the guys here have been really nice to allow me to give
you the slide deck and stuff, so they’ll have that for you.
But this is the phase three, this is the missing piece that I
didn’t have time to go through today of basically how that now you
have all this community, now you have all this culture going on,
how does it not drive you crazy when you have 40,000 people,
customers in a Facebook group? How do you get people to actually
engage and have fun and want to be in your community? Because it’s
much people having people in a community and 50% of them being
engaged on a daily basis, is a totally different thing.
So it’s going to tell you how to do that, and also how to have
24/7 free customer support inside of your group, that sounds cool
right. So this is all about phase three that I couldn’t get to
today, but I want to leave you with something. And yes, I
copyrighted this. You heard it here first. But in all seriousness,
if there’s anything that you take away from the next couple of
days, just do what Russell says.
And I know it’s like a funny saying now, but it’s like, I’m
really serious. He’s giving you the opportunity. He’s gone before
you and paved a path. He’s literally like made the road for you,
parted the sea, all you have to do is walk through it, but some of
you guys are trying to like walk into the sides of water. Some of
you guys are trying to go off the beaten path, you’re trying to
reinvent the wheel. But he’s already done it. All you have to do is
follow the system. All you have to do is what Russell says.
People come up and ask us all the time, “How did you do it? How
did you go from zero to an 8 figure business now?” and I’m like,
“Legit, all we did was do what Russell says.” So there’s one thing
from this weekend, just remember that. Don’t try to reinvent the
wheel. Don’t try to recreate things. Don’t try to deviate the path.
Take the tools that Russell has given you, and what he’s telling
you and just follow the system. Walk behind his footsteps and
you’ll get there, and just know, it’s possible. It’s possible.
I was in your chair, all the way back there in the back, right
over there, in San Diego. And now here, but you have to believe
it’s possible for you first. You have to take that identity as a
funnel hacker, and you have to say, “You know what? I’m just going
to do what Russell says. I’m going to implement. I’m going to
follow the system. I’m going to commit.” Are you guys down for
that?
Alright, I’m going to say, “I am a…” and you guys are going to
say, “Funnel Hacker.” And this is how I’m going to leave the stage,
and we’re going to do it three times. You guys ready?
I am a…funnel hacker. I am a…funnel hacker. I am a…funnel
hacker. Yes!
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