On this episode Russell gives a presentation at the viral video
launch of how Clickfunnels went from $0 to $100,000,000 using
growth hacking and sales funnels.
-- Step by step how Russell was able to grow his business without you outside funds.
-- How he was basically paid to introduce people into the Clickfunnels world.
-- And why funnels are the key to growing your own business without having to take money from venture capitalists.
So listen to this episode to find out what Russell thinks is in the future for email, that will make having a large list even better.
I didn’t get it at first. It took me a couple of years before I understood this concept of whoever can spend the most money to acquire a customer wins...
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What’s up everybody, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome to the
Marketing Secrets podcast. I am still planning on giving you guys a
huge recap of the viral video event, bubble soccer, everything else
that went down at the event, because some crazy stuff happened. I’m
also trying to get permission from Gary V to let me share some of
his presentation with you guys here. So that’s the game plan. If
I’m able to do that, you’ll see it soon. And you’ll see my recap
soon as well. But this week I’ve got my inner circle here, so I am
in there locked away.
So what I did want to do is I got the video clip from my
presentation at the event about how to go from zero to a hundred
million dollars in sales, how we did that by using sales funnels
and growth hacking. And it was a shorter presentation, but I think
it was really, really cool. I’m sure I talked really, really fast.
I was also really tired, I’d only slept one hour the night before.
So if it doesn’t make any sense, that’s kind of the context of why.
But hopefully it will give you guys some ideas about how to scale a
company.
You hear me talk about the Dotcom Secrets book a lot. Whoever
can spend the most money to acquire a customer wins, and sometimes
when you hear that it’s depressing if you don’t have a lot of
money, so I’m not going to win. And that’s how I felt, especially
when we launched Clickfunnels and we’re competing against two
companies, one that had 40 million dollars in funding and one that
had over 100 million. How do you do that? And this presentation
shows you how we did it. So after we do a little Marketing Secrets
intro here, I’m going pick right up with my presentation from the
event, I hope you love it. Thanks so much and we’ll talk to you
guys soon.
I put together this presentation because like I said, the
biggest question I get, especially from people who are building
their own companies is “how in the world have you grown
Clickfunnels so fast without having any money, any capitol, any
outside funding at all?” So I put together this presentation this
morning. Like I said, I had one hour of sleep last night, then I
got up and started working on this presentation.
But to kind of walk you through what we did and some of the mind
shifts that I think are different that will hopefully help you guys
as you’re growing and scaling everything you are doing.
So the title of my presentation is how do we use growth hacking
and sales funnels to go from zero to a hundred million dollars in
less than three years, we’re a week away, without taking any
outside funding. So the first thing I want to go over really
quickly, for those that didn’t know what I was talking about
earlier, I’m going to go over what a funnel is really quick.
So what is a funnel? If you look at, actually let me step back.
The reason why I want to talk about this is it’s been interesting,
I’ve been doing this internet marketing game for 15 years now. This
is my 15th year in the business selling all sorts of
stuff, and it’s interesting because recently there’s been a whole
bunch of books coming out on growth hacking, all these cool new
ways to growth hack. And it’s funny because we get the growth
hacking books and read them, it’s like, that’s all the internet
marketing stuff we’ve been doing for the last decade. And now it’s
like, real businesses are catching on, figuring out these things
that are really, really cool.
Showing all these funnel things, this is the growth hacking, this is the
movement, this is where things are going that we keep talking
about.
So what’s a funnel? To explain a funnel, I think the easiest way
to begin, is to show what a funnel is not. So this is a traditional
style website. This is what Clickfunnels is kind of going against
all the time. Most people have traditional websites, they have all
sorts of ads. They’re paying for Facebook, Youtube, Google, all
these things and they’re driving it into these websites, and it’s
literally slamming a whole bunch of people into a brick wall.
I know that because this is how I got started. I was trying that
thing and it did not work. I always say that a traditional website
is kind of like having a really bad sales person who is shy and all
they do is hand out brochures, and then pray the person comes back.
That’s a traditional website. What a funnel is, is basically having
the best salesperson on planet earth, come and meet the person at
the front door, find out their name and walk them through the
process. Find out what they want, how they want it and giving them
exactly what they want.
So that’s kind of what a sales funnel is. My whole philosophy in
business kind of, like I told you guys in the last presentation,
when we started Clickfunnels three years ago, we had two major
competitors that we were looking at. Number one had just gotten 43
million dollars in funding and number two had just had over 100
million dollars in funding. I’m coming in with me and Todd and
we’re bank rolling it with our big old credit cards and we’re like,
“Okay, we’re going against these huge giants that have hundreds of
millions of dollars, how are we going to win?”
One of my first mentors, Dan Kennedy, he used to say this all
the time. “Whoever can spend the most money to acquire a customer
wins.” So I’m looking at these companies who have hundreds of
millions of dollars in funding and I’m like, I’m screwed. I’m not
going to be able to win. These guys could out spend me every single
day.
And I started looking at this more and more and I didn’t get it
at first. It took me a couple of years before I understood this
concept of whoever can spend the most money to acquire a customer
wins. Like I told you before, I went to college here at Boise
State, I wrestled here and I used to carry my buddies on back up
and down the football stadium, every single day before practice,
this is my hometown. Here in Boise, one thing we’re famous for,
those who are not from Idaho, we’re famous for potatoes and the
very first product I ever put together was a DVD teaching people
how make potato guns.
You probably heard me tell this story before, but it was a DVD
how to make potato guns. I set it up online, I was learning about
internet marketing, it was really simple. I had a one page website,
I had Google ads. That’s all that we did back in the day. So I went
to Google, started buying ads, I was spending about $10 a day on
Google ads, and I was selling a $37 DVD on how to make potato guns.
So I spent $10 a day on ads and I usually averaged about one sale
per day. So Russell as a college kid was making a whopping $27 per
day profit, I was putting into my pocket, which was pretty
awesome.
And that was kind of my beginning. And then what happened, a
little while into this whole game, Google shifted how everything
worked and I got in big, big trouble and literally overnight, my
website was the same but I went from spending $10 a day in ads to
spending $50 a day, overnight. So I was spending $50 a day and
sending it to the exact same website, but I was only making one
sale. Same thing. So I was losing $13 a day.
And my beautiful wife, after about 3 or 4 days of that said,
“You have to stop. This is not a good business. This is really,
really bad.” So we stopped and eventually had to cut up our credit
cards and I thought I’d missed the bubble. I’m like dang it, we
missed it. And those are actual pictures of us cutting up our
credit cards, back in our first home.
About that time I had a friend who was also in the business and
he came back and said, “Russell, I think I’ve figured this out. My
little website..” He had the same problem. Google raised their
prices, algorithms changed, and a bunch of my friends got out of
the business. One of my friends came back and he’s like, “I figured
it out. I started adding in these things.” He called them OTO’s
which stands for one time offer, or basically an upsell. He says,
”I’m charging upsells to my products and I start making more money
from every customer, and now I’m able to afford my ads again. I
turned my ads back on. I was like, “That’s cool, but I don’t
know how…How can I do that? I don’t know how to do that.”
I was like, “I have a potato gun DVD. What should I do?” and
he’s like, “Well, people who buy potato gun DVD’s, what else do
they need? How else can you serve them?” And I was like, “Well, we
could buy them, the next piece is they have to buy a potato gun
kit, so they’d have to buy pipes and a BBQ igniter, all these other
pieces.” And he’s like, “Well you should sell a kit.” I’m like,
“Well I don’t want to make kits. That would be really not cool.”
And he’s like, “See if you can find someone.”
So I ended up finding a guy in Northern Idaho who actually was
drop shipping potato gun kits, did a partnership with him and I
made my very first funnel. This is my funnel transition. So people
who buy my DVD, I’d upsell a $200 potato gun kit and we’d send it
out in the mail. So what’s cool is I’d turned the Google ads on
back in the day, and what happened is I was still spending about
$50 a day, but then one out of three people would start buying the
potato gun kit. So we did the math on that, one out of three
people, means I was averaging about $60 in additional sales with
every DVD that I got, that I sold.
Which means I was spending about $50 a day on ads, and now I was
making $102 in ads, and all the sudden it worked again. That was
magic. Literally when I made that shift I went from losing money to
making $52 a day in profit. I was like, this is it. Biggest thing
in the world.
For me obviously, potato guns is a very small market and I
didn’t stay there long, but the concept of that rang through my
head, I was like this is how it works. And my moral that I learned
from this whole experience was that funnels make me money, websites
make me broke. So my obsession for the last decade of my life has
been this. A lot of you guys have been to my events for the last
decade, teaching this concept. Showing you guys, this is the
key.
So when I started doing this and realizing it, that message I
had heard from my mentor kept coming back to my head saying,
“Whoever can spend the most money to acquire a customer wins.” That
was the key. Whoever can spend the most money to acquire a customer
wins. So as we came into this game of Clickfunnels and looking at
people with hundreds of millions of dollars in venture capital
behind them, I’m like how in the world can we compete with that? I
was like, I can’t do it. Head for head they can all outspend me,
but if I can build a funnel that’s right, I can change
everything.
f you look at the reason why we have grown as fast as we have,
is because we can literally outspend everyone. We get probably
three or four times a week, different people trying to put money
into CLickfunnels, and most of these we tell them no, but a couple
we’ve entertained because it’s interesting and we’re curious what
they think we’re worth, it’s really fun.
So we were at lunch this day with this group and I’m talking to
the guy and he’s going over everything, and he asks the question
they always ask on Shark Tank, “How much does it cost to acquire a
customer?” And I hate when people ask this question because he’s
not going to get what I’m going to tell him. I was like, “Well
we’re running Facebook ads, for the home page, we’re spending about
$120 to acquire a free trial member.” And he was like, “Oh that’s
amazing, based on that, what I can do is go and put in $50 million
in cash and we get this many customers…” and all this stuff and I
was like, “Well, well, real quick. We actually turned those ads
off.” And he’s like, “You turned those ads off.” And I’m like,
“Yeah. I gotta pay for this out of my own pocket. I don’t want to
lose $120 every customer.” And he’s like, “Well how are you guys
growing fast?” and I said, “ The reason why is because we have
funnels.”
And I explained to him some of my front end funnels, like my
book funnels, some other funnels. I said, “Look, for every single
person that comes to one of my funnels, if they buy one of my
books, we spend on average about $10-12 on a Facebook ads, or other
ad platforms to sell a book, but then through that funnel we
average about $32. What happens is we spend $12 and get someone to
buy one of our books, we make net, $20 of cash in our pocket, and
then we introduce them to Clickfunnels. So every single customer,
before we tell them about Clickfunnels, they actually pay us money
and we put that money in our pocket.”
He’s like, “That doesn’t make any sense.” And I explained it
again. And he said, “That doesn’t make sense.” And I explained it
three or four times and he stopped and said, “If what you’re saying
is true, that will change business forever.” I was like, “That’s my
whole message. That’s what we do. That’s what funnels are all
about.”
So I want to walk you guys really quick through this and then
we’re going to have Gary come up here in a minute. But one of the
key concepts you guys need to understand, and this a concept we
call a break even funnel. Those of my inner circle members who are
here, we spent a lot of time on this, but the break even funnel is
a funnel where you break even, so you can literally get customers
for free. When you have that, you can grow your company as quick,
as big, as fast as you want. So we spend a lot of time on that. So
this is a break even funnel, where I put a dollar in advertizing in
and get at least a dollar back out, and if I’m good at it, I can
get two or three dollars back out. Now I’ve got a customer, I’ve
got some cash, now we can put them into the other things that we
have.
A couple of examples of some of our break even funnels, I
grabbed these from some slides this morning to show you some
examples. This is my Dotcom Secrets book, this is a couple of
months ago stats. We got about 5400 leads, we sold 23,095 books,
our average cart value during that time was $30.81, so we spent
$45,000 in ads, we made $52,000 in sales so our profit was $7,763.
Most people would look at a company our size and be like, that is a
waste. You just wasted a lot of….you just made $7 grand, that’s not
a big deal.
But that was to get customers. We got 5400 people that then, the
next week we would say, “hey, by the way, there’s this really cool
thing called Clickfunnels.” And I got paid $7,000 to get those 5400
people onto my list. That was one of our front end products. This
is a split-testing book, same kind of thing. We had 2,000 leads
come in last month, 1300 book sold, average cart value was $12. Ads
we spent $4000, sales was $18,000, so we made $13,000 but now we
got 2000 people that we can introduce to Clickfunnels. So we got
paid to get all these customers.
One more example is Perfect Webinar, same kind of thing. Leads,
sales, I’ll go through this quickly. We made $4000 and got 1600
customers we introduced into Clickfunnels. Now if you walk through
those three funnels alone, and we have about a dozen or so front
end funnels that we use in different platforms and things, last
month from this, basically our front end revenue was $96.000, our
ad costs were $81,000, so we netted a whopping $14,000. Most people
would be like, “Man Russell, with a company with 120 employees,
you’re going to go broke fast.”
But what’s amazing about that, is that it brought in literally
30 or 40,000 new people into our world, who then we took them
through the rest of our sequence. They’re introduced to us, now we
can go and build a relationship with them, talk to them, serve
them, help them understand what we do, what we believe, and
introduce them to our other products and services. And for us,
obviously that is Clickfunnels
So if you look at that, what it means for us, is we literally
get almost a thousand trials for free every single day, like
clockwork. That comes back to what we talked about before. That’s
how we’re able to grow so fast. We can literally outspend everybody
in our market. There’s nobody else that can do that.
And what’s cool for you guys, whatever business you’re in,
that’s the key. Remember whoever can spend the most money to
acquire a customer wins, and when you figure that out, it makes it
so you can grow really, really quickly. Any kind of business, any
kind of venture, anything that you want to do. So that, you guys,
is how we use growth hacking and sales funnels to go from zero to a
hundred million dollars in just three years without taking on any
outside funding. Thank you.
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