On this episode of the Marketing Secrets podcast, I dive into one of the most transformative concepts in the marketing world—Hook, Story, Offer. This is something I stumbled upon unexpectedly, and it has since become the foundational framework for all my funnels, ads, and landing pages. It’s not just a catchy phrase; it’s the answer to why businesses succeed or fail. When you break it down, if there’s an issue in your funnel, it’s always related to either the hook, the story, or the offer. After testing and refining this concept, I realized it was the key to everything and included it in all three of my major books—DotCom Secrets, Expert Secrets, and Traffic Secrets.
In this episode, I share the very first presentation I gave on this concept at Funnel Hacking Live, where I explained how mastering this framework can transform your business. We cover everything from why your hooks are crucial for grabbing attention to how your story connects with your audience, and finally, how to craft an irresistible offer that drives conversions. If you understand and master these three elements, you can create funnels that not only work but thrive.
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Whether you're struggling with low conversion rates or just looking to take your funnel to the next level, this episode is packed with actionable advice to help you diagnose and fix any issues. Tune in to learn how to become a master of the Hook, Story, Offer framework and revolutionize your marketing strategy!
Your people will find you as you find your voice, your people will find you, but you cannot find your voice until you start, until you begin, until you start moving forward.
Russell Brunson:
Hook, story, offer. This is one of the coolest things I've ever discovered when it comes to marketing and sales and persuasion. And it's something like... I literally was working out, I was going to the gym thinking about a whole bunch of different things, and all of a sudden just popped in my head and I was like, "Oh my gosh, this is the key to everything." I started looking at my own funnels. I looked at other people's funnels and looked at everyone I was consulting. And what was crazy, where I realized is after I discovered this framework and started using it, I realized that no matter what is wrong inside of a business on an ad, on a landing page, on upsells down, whatever it is, if you're having a problem, it's always either the hook, the story, or the offer. And I got so excited by this afterwards, I went back and I was writing the Traffic Secrets book, and so I wrote a whole huge section about Hook, Story, Offer inside the Traffic Secrets book.
But then I was also rewriting DotCom Secrets and Expert Secrets. And so in both those books, I also wrote different things about Hook, Story, Offer. And so it's the only framework that's in all three of my books right now. And then shortly after I updated all the books, we had a Funnel Hacking Live event, and in Funnel Hacking Live, this was the very first time ever I had a chance to share this principle. I like to call Hook, Story, Offer. And so right now I'm actually preparing for Funnel Hacking Live. Normally, I don't show you guys video clips of me at other events on the YouTube channel, but because I am working on 12 different presentations right now, I thought, how cool would it be to show you guys one of my favorite presentations from the past, the very first time I ever taught this concept called Hook, Story, Offer, and how you can use it inside of your business to grow your funnels, to make more sales, to hire conversions, and be able to serve more people inside of your community.
So with that said, check out this video presentation from Funnel Hacking Live, teach you guys the principle of Hook, Story, Offer. In the last decade, I went from being a start-up entrepreneur to selling over a billion dollars in my own products and services online. This show's going to show you how to start, grow, and scale a business online. My name is Russell Brunson, and welcome to the Marketing Secrets podcast. How many you guys even have gone through the one Funnel Way challenge? Yeah. Okay, those, you've gone through it. If I stress a lot about one simple thing, which was Hook, Story, Offer, I talked a lot about that and I want to talk about that for the next hour or so because throughout this week you're going to be learning about a lot of different types of funnels, right? About challenge funnels and summit funnels, and all these different things. And some of you guys may get confused, but I want to understand the core fundamental foundation of what you have to become good at as an entrepreneur is understanding this one concept, which is mastering Hook, Story, Offer.
And so I'm going to spend some time going over that Hook, Story, Offer. I gave everybody a handout that came with your... Should be on your seats, you just take notes on and stuff like that.
But one of the things it says in there, I think on the very front page is that if something's not working in your funnel, it's always either your hook, your story, or your offer. Every time. Aaron says, "My funnel's not working Russell, so what should I do?" I look at it, I'm like, "Oh, your hook is horrible. That's why nobody's clicking on your ad." Or "Hey, your Hook's good people showed up. Your Story's boring. That's what no one's buying." Or it's like you hooked and you told a good story, but man, that offer was horrible. No one would ever give you money for that. And I've learned as I broke it down, consulting to three things, it's always one of these three things. Okay?
So I'm going to spend the next hour or so going over this, giving you guys ideas and opening up your mind to becoming better at that. If you become better at that, this framework fits into any funnel. Okay? If I'm selling a book, I got to be good at Hook, Story, Offer. If I'm selling something through the phone Hook, Story, Offer, if I'm selling something through Webinars, Hook, Story... This is the framework that we all have to come masters at. So I want to lead with that today. And then as everyone else starts training on different funnels and strategies, you just remember, if my funnel's not working, it's because of one of these three things every single time. Okay? If you were to hire me for my insanely high consulting rates like Russell, "My funnel's not working, what should I do?" I'd just be like, "Thanks for the check. It's either your hook, or your story, your offer."
So next time you're like, "Man, I wish Russell just hook my funnel." Just sit and be like, "Huh, what would Russell say?" He would say, "It's either your hook, your story, or your offer." Okay? It's always one of those three things every single time, okay? So with Hook, Story, Offer, it goes Hook, Story, Offer, but I'm going to start with the offer first and then move backwards just because that's kind of the framework, how it works. Okay? So the offer... Excuse me. A lot of you guys have gone through my training with perfect webinars. You see this thing called a stack slide? How many you guys are familiar with a stack slide? Good, okay. The stack slide is, hey, how we create an offer? Okay? And even if you're not doing a webinar, you still create a stack slide.
There is no circumstance when I ever sell that. I don't use a stack slide. If I was emailing somebody and they were like, "Hey, what does it cost to hire you as a consultant or hire you to do whatever," I would literally send them an email and I'd have a stack slide. I'd just have bullet point 1 value, two, value. I would use this in everything, okay? And I'm going to show you guys some examples today.
It doesn't matter if you're selling coaching or supplements or physical products or services, you should always have this. Okay? Now, to begin with, I want to talk about one of the founding fathers of our industry. A lot of you guys may not even know him or heard of him. His name is Claude Hopkins. How many you guys have heard of Mr. Claude Hopkins? All right, all my OG's, all the originals, okay.
This is your marketing history lesson. So Claude Hopkins was the father of modern advertising, and what's interesting is way back then in the early 1900s, what he was called what his job was, he was what they called a scheme man, okay? He was a scheme man. What the scheme men did is they came into a company and their whole job was to come up with the offer. That was it. The most important part, which is the offer. Okay? Now to show you the value, even in the late 1800s, early 1900s, the value of becoming a scheme man, the person who actually creates the offer, Claude Hopkins back then was paid $52,000 a year, 1907. Okay? Now the equivalent of that, that's $1.39 million in today's dollars. They paid this dude over a million bucks a year to come in and be like, "This is what your offer is." Okay?
And most of you guys never even think about this. You just kind of go off and do whatever. And I'm not.. I'm excited. Stephen Larsen is going to be talking in two presentations. He's going to go deep into a whole bunch of really cool offer stuff with you guys, but we understand this is the value of the most important part to offer. You have to understand this is so valuable that back then they pay people that much money to come create offers for them. Okay? So it's worth your time to start figuring these things out. Now, I want talk about when offer isn't for a minute, because most people in business, I think about "What's the product I'm going to create?" And the biggest problem when you create a product is that when you have a product, it is a commodity and anybody else can create it, right?
And if you have a product and it's a commodity, when you're trying to figure out how to sell it, the only thing you have as leverage is price, right? Okay. That's why when you go to Amazon, someone's selling the thing at this price. It's like, "Oh, well, if I'm going to beat them, I got to sell it for less and I got to sell it for less and less and less and less," and it's a race to the bottom, which is the worst type of business to be in, by the way, okay? Dan Kennedy told me when I first got started, man, 14, 15 years ago in this business, he said that there is no strategic advantage of being the second-lowest price leader in town. So if you can't be Walmart, there's no sense of being the lowest price leader in town, but there's a huge strategic advantage of being the most expensive person in town.
So if you're creating something like you can create a product and become a commodity, and you're racing to the bottom, or you understand how to create an offer, which de-commoditizes you, I'll show you here in a minute, and it makes it so you can charge whatever you want. Okay? So that's the key you have to understand. So a product is a one singular thing, an offer as we take a product and you bundle it with a bunch of other things to increase the value and to make it unique and separate and different, right? If I would've sold this as a digital marketing event, there's like 800 digital marketing events you could have gone to. Why did you guys fly here in the middle of the rain? It's because it's different, right? It wasn't just a product, it's not a marketing event, it's a whole bunch of other stuff.
When you bought Click Funnels, most guys didn't buy it because it was like, "Oh, here's software that builds websites." There's tons of software that builds websites. We created irresistible offers and bundling together to make you go crazy to come and buy and to come here and do things, right? I spent a ton of time focusing on how to create an offer. Now, one thing you have to understand, basically there's two ways to make your product the cheapest in town. The best way to illustrate this. The first way is obvious. If you want to be the cheapest product in town, you have to decrease the price, which again, funnel hackers don't do that. We should make a T-shirt that says that, funnel hackers do not decrease prices. If you decrease the price, you become cheaper than somebody else. The other thing is, if you increase the value of what you're offering, then you become cheaper, right?
Because if I sell you something and it's worth a million dollars and I only sell for a thousand, that's cheaper than the person who sells you something for a thousand bucks, it's worth a thousand bucks. Does that make sense? Okay, so I can either decrease the price or I can increase the value to increase the value of the thing. And if you look at this, it's interesting, I had this conversation with my kids the other day, how much money you make is 100% tied to how much value you give. It's a 100% correlation. My kids were asking me, my kids are cute because they're age where they're trying to start figuring things out, and one of my sons Bowen was like, "Dad, it doesn't make any sense." This guy over here is one of our friends. He's like, "He's a doctor, and he's way better than you, but you make way more money than him. How come?"
I said, "Well, you get paid based on how much value you offer." He's like, "But dad, he operates on people, that's way more valuable than what you do." And I smiled. I said, "It's definitely more difficult. I can't imagine that." But I said, you don't understand. He's only able to operate on one human being at a time. So he's offering insane amounts of value for one person. So because of that, he gets paid really, really well, but it's finite. It's as big as it can be. I was like, I'm able to offer value to 4,500 people or 76,000 people or a million people to create something of value, and I can create it so many more times. And so I said, that's the reason I'm able to make more money than doctors because of how that works. And I kept explaining this to him, and so I told him, I was like, look, if you want to get a job, you get paid based on how much value you have. Right? Okay?
So if you get a job at McDonald's and they're paying whatever, what's minimum wage nowadays? Eight bucks an hour, I'm like, that's how much value you're getting. But I was like, but if you go and you can create something, you can do something bigger. The value is so much higher and you can get paid more money for that. And I was trying to explain this to it to a kid, which is really fun. So the whole name of this game is you're creating funnels and you're figuring out hook, your story, your offer. You're trying to increase the value, so the offer increases the value of whatever it is you're trying to sell. Okay? So I'm going to show you some practical life examples. The first one here is dating. Okay? Now, when I met my beautiful wife, Colette, the very first time, there were tons of men who wanted to date her, and I was just a product.
I'm like, hey, I'm wearing baggy pants and I have a shaved head and glasses, and that was the product. That's the best I had, right? There were much better looking dudes who dress nice, all sorts of stuff. And I was like looking at me in a lineup. It's like, man, there's much better offers out there, much better products. Because I was a commodity that time. So it's like, okay, if I'm going to convince my wife to marry me, who's way more beautiful than me, what do I got to do? It's like, hey, I have to create an offer. I have to make this better. And this is true for any of the single men who are trying to figure out how things work. You got to bundle. So if I'm like, "Hey, do you want to go on a date with me?" She's like, I got to ask my four other people this week.
I'm like, "Hey, this is the deal." I plan a date, it's going to be amazing. What we're going to do is we're going to go to dinner and what's your favorite place to eat? Oh yeah, we're going to go there. And then what do you like to do? And we plan an actual date and make an amazing offer. Then she's like, she's not judging for me versus somebody else, product versus product. She's like, oh man, that experience seems amazing and the offer's better. And so when you're dating, it's the same thing when your business partners, when Todd came to me as a business partner, he had so much value. It wasn't just like, "Oh, I'm a programmer." I'm like, I'm a programmer. You can turn your dreams into a vision, into reality. Right?
I can do this, I can do this. It all of a sudden becomes this amazing offer and it's like, "Oh my gosh, I can't say no." The value gets so big. So it works in dating. It also works for movies. How of you guys are pumped to see this movie next week? How many of you guys have no idea what movie this is? Okay, so if I came up to you and I was like, "Hey, Captain Marvel's coming out next week, who wants to go with me?" This room is fire. If I walked in the dorm room, who wants to go to Captain Marvel me? They'd be like, ah. I'm like, this is the deal. Okay, Captain Marvel's coming out.
I'm so excited to come see this movie. So I'm so excited. What I did is actually, it's coming out, it comes out on my birthday. March 8th is my birthday. That's the day it comes live, but the night before, they're doing a private screening in Boise, and I started a commercial for it the other day, and on the commercial said, hey, the movie's coming out. Make sure to book your tickets now. And I was like, oh. So I went to the little app, the Fandango app, and I looked at the theater. There's only one theater playing it at seven 30 night the night before and the half of the theater's taken, and I was like, "Oh my gosh, half the theater's taken."
So I bought the other half, okay? This is a true story. Klut's like, "Why do you keep buying all these tickets?" I'm like, "I don't know. I'm sure something's going to want to hang out with me." So if I was like, this is the deal, you can come to Boise with me and we're all going to go together. We've got half the theater just for Funnel Hacker, it's going to be amazing. Now, went from a movie like a $20 movie to this experience, and then ahead of time we're going to do, we're going to go to my favorite sushi restaurant. There's a role called the Rattlesnake Roll, and it's like this little podunk strip joint in Boise that seems kind of weird, but later they have the best sushi on planet earth. I always bring people and they're like, "Oh yes, Boise Sushi in Boise is going to be great.""
And then they have and they're like, "Oh my gosh, this is the greatest sushi I've ever had." I'm like, I know. How many of you guys have been there with me? Yeah, it's insane. So what we're going to do is we're going to go Sushi First, I'm going to introduce you guys to the Rattlesnake roll, best roll and planet earth. Then we're going to go, we're going to have a separate Funnel Hacker section. We're going to watch Captain Marvel together. Third thing is I'm going to buy costumes for each of us and all of us going to pick somebody. It's going to be amazing, and it's going to be awesome. And then fourth off, after it's done, we'll go back to my house and then we'll just goof off. We'll play in the wrestling, we'll play on the tramps and stuff. It'll be amazing. Okay? How many of us want to come to that movie now?
So you see how I increase the value? I went from like, oh, it's a $20 movie to like, oh my gosh, I'm going to book a plane and we're going to fly there tonight, right? Just by increasing the offer. Okay? So if someone's not buying your thing, it's because your offer's not good, how do you increase the offer? How do you make it better? Okay, always think how do we make it better? How do to make it better? Okay, we have a product we sell right now, it's two pieces of paper we sell for a thousand bucks. How many you guys will give me a thousand bucks for two pieces of paper? My diehards. Thank you. All right, well, we literally do. So I have two pieces. The sales scripts are high ticket sales scripts, two pieces of paper we sell for a thousand bucks. And if you look at it, you're like, I would never pay a thousand bucks for two pieces of paper, Russell, and most people wouldn't, but I'm like these two pieces of paper, guess what they are?
This is our high ticket sales script, okay? Today we've done just short of $30 million in sales with these two pieces of paper. Someone pick up the phone, you read this one, and then you read the other side and then they give you money. It's amazing. It just works every single time. And I didn't make it up. People have been using for years, has been billions of dollars in sales tracked back to these two pages, and the person I know in the world who's the best? This is a guy named Robbie. In fact, Robbie's here in the room. Where's Robbie at? He's here somewhere. He's probably out, dude. So, Robbie, is the one who showed me the script initially and he trained me and they trained our sales guys and build the whole team and he got everyone on it. Okay? So for a thousand bucks, I'll give you two pages, but then I'll also give you Robbie in a box.
So how do you guys like Robbie to make videos to trade in your entire sales team just for you? It's amazing, right? So you hire sales people, you give them these two pages, you say watch the videos of Robbie teaching you. They watch those for three hours. They come out ruthless sales people can sell anybody anything. And then you're like, "But that's cool, but I don't have any ads." I'm like, okay, how about this? I will give you the ads we run and I'll give you the funnels I run. I'll just give those to you as well, right? And then how about I can hook up a call where you can jump on the call with Robbie for 30 minutes. He'll train your sales people and make sure to customize the scripts specifically for you. Now, how many of you guys pay a thousand bucks for that offer?
Okay, you see how it works? It went from two pieces of paper, do I bundle it all sudden? It's like, "Oh my gosh, I have to have that." If people aren't buying again, it's the always Hook, Story, Offer. If it's your offers because you got to figure out how to make it better, how do you increase it? Okay? One funnel away challenge the same thing. This is a challenge where you get jump on a coaching call every day for 30 days, see the energy is like, "Oh." Now let me tell you all this stuff you get, the first thing you get is you get the big old box in the mail. Inside the box is a book called 30 Days.com, where 30 people of our two Comic Club winners each wrote a chapter about how they got into Comic Club, and then there's videos of them showing behind the scenes of each of their funnels.
And then on top of that, you're going to get 30 days of video from me. Then you get 30 days of video from Julie, and then on top of Stephen Larson will come on every single day and yell at you and make sure you actually get the stuff done. By the time they're done, your funnel is going to be finished and we go on and on and on. All of a sudden, this is the most irresistible offer of all time. Okay? The first challenge with 7,500 people signed up for it. My goal is to get 10,000 people a month signing up for this challenge, and we keep making the offer better and better and better. Okay? If you want to sell more stuff, figure out your offer and make it sexier, increase it, make it better. So the question then is like, well, how do you do that?
Okay, somebody's like, I sell this thing. How do I make it sexier? How do I make an offer? So the fastest way to increase an offer is to bulk it up by adding other types of information products. So I'm going to go through a couple of ways that you guys can create quick information products to bulk up any offer without actually having to write a book. Does that sound like fun?
Audience:
Yeah.
Russell Brunson:
All right, cool. So I'm going to go through three different things you can do. Number one, there are written words, but I'm going to show you how to do without actually writing any words. Number two is audio, and number three is video. This will give you guys ideas. So no one will ever say, "Well, I can't create an offer Russell." With these things I'm going to show you, you can create millions and millions of offers. In fact, if you start looking at everything I do, you'll notice it's always one of these three things I'm using to bulk of my offers every single time. Okay? So the first are written themes. So the first thing I want to show you guys is how many, you guys would love to have a book, but you don't want to write a book?
Books are the most painful part of everything I've ever done ever by far. This is a book that was a crowdsourced book called Chicken Soup for the Soul. How many you guys have read Chicken Soup for the Soul? How many you guys have read one of the eight million versions since then? Okay. The most amazing thing about this book is that the authors who wrote this book didn't actually write any of the words in the books. Isn't that great yet? They still made millions and millions and millions and millions of dollars. Okay? The other day my son came into my little office, it was Bowen again.
He came in and he saw his book and he said, "Dad, is that your new book?" And I said, yeah. He's like, "You wrote another new book?" I was like, well, "Kind of." He's like, "What do you mean kind of?"
I'm like, well, I wrote the title and that was it. He's like, "Did you cheat?" I'm like, "No, I didn't cheat." I said, I had 30 people who got to Comic Club Awards write how they would get it to Comic Club Awards. They could do it again. He's like, "And then they just wrote the chapter?" I said, yeah, and I put it in the book and then we sell the book. He's like, "But you didn't write anything." I'm like, I wrote the title. It's a really good title. And he's like, "I don't think that's a real book, dad." I'm like, no, it really is. Okay. How many of you guys decide whatever business you're in could find a whole bunch of experts in whatever it is? And you could write a book like this? This book alone, we did the very first launch of the One Funnel Away Challenge where we gave this away and we closed it down for four months.
People were auctioning these things off. Someone sold one for over $500 on eBay. People were going crazy for this book. Right? Now, when we launch one Family Challenge again, like you guys get this book and people flip out, people buy it just because they want the book. I didn't write a word of it. Think about this. How could you guys Chicken Soup for the Souls Trailblazer for us? I've Trails Blazer for you. How could you guys do that same thing in your market? Find people around you and say, hey, let me interview many you, 30 of you or 20 of you or 10 of you, and put it together. Make a book, make, there's a million things you can do with that, but it's a fast, easy way to create a book. You don't actually have to do it. Okay, number two, a way to get written books really fast is to compile examples of stuff.
How many of you guys have read my 108 split test book? Okay, this is literally just screenshots of 108 of our split tests and people go crazy for it. Okay? How many of you guys are doing stuff in your business or whatever it is you do that you have this by project? We weren't planning on selling this, we were just doing split tests and it takes screenshots of the split tests and eventually two years later, we should just put these all in a book. We just compiled a whole bunch of examples and we sold it. Okay? This right here, how many you guys are members of Funnel University? Every month we find a couple of funnels and we compile them and talk about them, and we show them to people. They're not my funnels, they're other people's funnels. We just find the cool ones and we show them and we put them in a newsletter. Okay?
How many guys have seen this book, the 74 Funnel Swipe File? None of you guys have seen it yet. Another product coming out soon to a funnel near you, right? Same thing. We're just compiling cool stuff. How many guys have seen cool stuff before? All right, you should just compile it then and then make a book and then it's amazing. More people will probably write this book than my other books that I spent years slaving on write and they're like, oh, this is way better. Okay? And one of my favorite ones, this is kind of a tricky one, have you guys ever heard of the public domain before? This is where Walt Disney got all of his ideas. By the way, he never wrote anything. He just went to the public domains like, oh sweet. Someone wrote a story about a Beauty and the Beast, or about the Snow Princess, or about all these things.
Found these public domain stories and produce movies at it. Okay? Anything that was written pre-1923 in the United States is in public domain. You can republish it as your own. One of my friends, Matt Fury, he took this old 1914 wrestling course, the Farmer Burns, published it in the book, made over a million dollars selling that course. Okay? Have you guys read Think and Grow Rich, Master Key Systems? Tons of the books that you guys are know and you are aware of are all in the public domain. You can republish them. So there's two places I go for public domain stuff. Number one, go to Gutenberg.org, everything on Gutenberg.org is in the public domain. They just published. There's like 50,000 eBooks there you can find in your market. You can take it and republish it as your own. The second secret, I go to eBay and to eBay in the nonfiction book section you can search by year.
So I searched by year and I start typing keywords in my market and you'll be amazed at how many amazing books have been written that people are selling on eBay for a dollar 50 that you can then republish and sell for whatever you want, bundle it inside of your offer to quickly get amazing books. So those three fast ways to make books, crowdsource them, compile a bunch of examples or go in the public domain. Now here's the concept I need you guys to understand. As we move from the first three to the next three and beyond, this will make this whole process simpler for you. Okay? If the concept is this, people will more money for the exact same content packaged in a different way. Okay? Say it again. People will spend more money for the exact same content packaged in a different way. Okay?
When I first started this business, I remember going to events like this and the speakers... Seemed like every single time some speaker would say "Who here reads Red Think and Grow Rich? By the way, how many of you guys have been Think and Grow Rich?
Audience:
Yeah.
Russell Brunson:
Which is in the public domain, by the way. So, yes, and I'll republish this, Think and Grow Rich for dentists. Think and Grow Rich for Surfers. Think and Grow Rich for whatever. Anyway, it's there ready for you. But anyway, so I kept hearing that. So I went and bought the book and I was like, oh, I'm so excited to read this book. And I put it next to my bed stand and it sat there for months and months and then years. And every time I go to an event, people would be like who read Think and Grow Rich? I raise my hand. I'm like, well, I actually read it. I have it, someday I'll read it.
And one day I remember feeling guilty. I went on eBay and I typed Think and Grow Rich CDs and someone was selling the CD course of it. And so I bought the CDs, got in my car, and for the next three weeks I started reading Think and Grow Rich in My Car. Now, what's interesting about this is the book Think and Grow Rich Cost Me $9.97 on Amazon. The CDs cost me $97 on eBay. So I literally paid 10 times more money for the exact same thing packaged in a different way. Was there any difference between the book and the audio? Literally word for word. Some dude read the book and then it became CDs and I spent 10 times as much. Okay? This is lesson for you guys. How many of you guys read the DotCom Seekers book? How many you guys read The Expert Seekers book? Why are you here then? Everything I know is in those books. I got nothing else.
Oh, because it's packaged a different way. Does that make sense? Well, you guys all to understand that what you have, you can package in so many different ways and because of the experience, how it's being fulfilled, all those things, it shifts the value of it. This is way more valuable than a $10 book, this experience than being here. All right, so I'm going to shift over to audio now. Okay? So this is the book that we republish. This was in the public domain. It's called Life Work of Farmer Burns. I had my father-in-Law get a microphone out. He read it, we turned it into a CD and we started selling, this is probably 10 years ago, started selling this book on CD. So you can find a book and you can read it, you can have somebody else read it. You find a book from public domain.
You can find something like that and you can make an audiobook. Very simple, easy way to do it. Okay? Number two is you can interview others. So this is a book. How many you guys have read this book, by the way? I know all of our two Comic Club ex members. I sent you guys a copy of it. Everyone's like, "This thing is bigger than the phone book." It's one of the best books ever. And I remember when it first came out, David Fry, where's David at? Yes, so David got it, and he's like, this book's amazing that he called it Vince James, the author. And he interviewed him for a whole bunch of stuff and he made a whole audio course out of it. And Dave's a genius. I was like, I should just do what Dave did. So then I called him up, I was like, "Hey, can I interview you too?"
And he was like, "Sure." And so I interviewed the guy who wrote this book, the guy made... He was a twenty-year-old kid who made a hundred million dollars through direct mail selling supplements. And so I called him on the phone and I interviewed him and he let me interview him for six hours. When it was done he's like, you can have the rights to the audios. I have the rights to. You can do whatever you want with like sweet. And so then two years later, I launched it, and this actually became my very first ever to Comic Club Funnel. I made a million dollar selling the interviews of the interview I did with this guy who wrote the book. Isn't that amazing? How many you guys have ever read a book before? How many of you guys could call the author and be like, "Hey, can I interview you?"
And somebody's like, "Oh, he's too famous. He wrote all these big books. He's never going to interview me." Okay, I'm going to tell you the life of an author, if you guys really want to know how it works, they geek out on topic, they spend their whole life writing this book and they're so proud of it and they're so excited. And then they tell their spouse or their family, their friends. They're like, "Okay, that's weird." And they're like, "Oh, nobody cares?" And then there's the audience who gets the book and they love it and they read it and they're like, oh my people, they read it, right? And then somebody calls and they're like, "Hey, that book was amazing. Can I interview you?" The person's like, "Yes, you can." Just so you know, they want you to talk to them, they want to share this stuff.
It does not happen enough. You went to Amazon and find the top 10 authors of books in your market, I guarantee you, nine out of 10, you could get on the phone for free that fast, okay? Or you could actually... I don't know if Jason Flatline was here this year, but Jason gave me an idea that was brilliant. He was doing an offer. This ties back to the story we'll talk about here in a minute, but he was doing an offer. He was selling a funnel course, and he was like, I want to interview someone who did e-commerce funnels. So he's like, well, Trey Llewellyn has got the highest grossing e-commerce funnel right now inside of ClickFunnels. I want to interview Trey. So he calls up Trey, he's like, Hey, can I interview you? And they're friends and Trey's like, sure man, you can interview me.
And Jason's like, well, I need to wire you some money first. And Trey's like, no, don't worry about it. I'll do the interview. He's like, no, no, no, I need to wire you the money because otherwise there's no value in this interview. He's like, "What?" And Trey's like, whatever. So Jason wires the money, $5,000, he does the interview, and then when you see when Jason's selling this product and does the stack, he goes through Stack. He's like number one, number two, number three. He's like number three right here. You see this right here? This is the guy, he's the number one e-commerce seller in ClickFunnels. He had a funnel to $20 million in six weeks selling flashlights. And I wired him $5,000 to interview him because I find out, I mean he does interviews, but I wanted to find out the real stuff. So I paid him $5,000 to interview him. And that interview you guys could have.
Now all of a sudden that bullet point in this stack slide went from, oh, it's an interview that's worth $5,000 now, and the value instantly shoots up, right? So interviewing people is huge. In fact, when I launched the TenX Secrets course, I had my offer and it was good. And I was like, how do I make this sexier? So the first thing I did is I interviewed a bunch of people. I interviewed this man right here. Where's Myron at? Everyone loves Myron.
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Anyway, I interviewed Myron, I interviewed a bunch of people who I learned how to close from stage from, I interviewed all of them. Plug that into the course, increased the value of the course. So interviewing people is huge for any product. I don't think it was a product I put out, but I don't interview people. I do it even if it's my product. I'm like, who are the 10 other people I can interview who've done something similar? Because all those things increase the value of what it's selling.
Okay? And then the last audio one is compiling hard to find podcasts and audios and things like that. If I told you guys, I'm like, hey, my favorite podcast is Mixer GS. You go listen to it. How much value is in that? Not much, right? But if I was like, okay, there's this one interview that Andrew did and in the interview you started talking to the guy and literally the guy showed three different websites that were the key to blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And I listened to those things and I found the websites. I never knew they existed. I started doing the thing and that's how we got ClickFunnels to do whatever. If I tell you that, you're like, "Oh my gosh, I want to do that podcast," cool. When you sign up for my thing right now, I'm going to give you a link directly to that podcast up so that you can find it. Okay? You curating stuff for people. There's value in that, okay? YouTube videos, I've done it tons of times with opt-ins. We're like Opt-in here to get a free video from Robert Kiyosaki teaching the number one tax strategy for middle-aged Americans. And I just found a video on YouTube of Robert Kiyosaki teaching the number one thing on whatever.
And that's what I get people when they opt in. So you curating stuff you think is cool can be bundled into offers as well. So there's the audio ones really quick. So audiobooks interviewing other people and compiling hard-to-find audios is big thing. The last time I'm go through really quickly is video. Okay? There is a program. How many of you guys here use Windows? Have you guys used Macs?
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Holy cow. All right. Okay. There's a program. If you are using, if you're Windows, you should be using Camtasia. If you're using Mac, Screenflow, this tool has made me and probably most people more money than anything else on Earth. It just records whatever's happening on your screen. So you make a presentation or slides or literally... The very first version of the Funnel Hacks training, the one that got us from zero to 10,000 customers, I had a Word document open on the screen with my notes and the right-hand side. I had a little pitch here and I just clicked record on Screenflow and I talked for an hour as I read through my outline, we did like $10 million plus dollars in sales and that was what the product looked like. But we don't have a professional video studio. You don't need one. Just get a microphone, Screenflow or Camtasia, record your screen, have a present and just teach it, okay? It is super easy. It's simple. It's like the easiest thing in the world to do. Okay? Number two video thing is just get your iPhone out.
Literally, you get your phone out and just make videos. Where's Rachel at? Is she in the room right now? We were on... Did you finish the course, by the way? Can I talk about that? So, Rachel, we were on this little cruise thing after TenX event, and she came to me and she's like, "I have an idea. It's going to be a course called Selfie Secrets." Am I going to ruin this? And I'm going to record the whole thing on my iPhone? And then the next day recorded entire course on her phone teaching the entire course, which is amazing, and it was all on her phone. Okay, so how many of you us have a phone? You have everything you need, all right? And you guys should all buy her course when it goes live. All right? And last thing is you should throw a workshop teaching people stuff and you don't even have to speak and bring other speakers to teach for you. Okay?
When I first got started, I didn't have any product to sell. And so the first thing I did is I threw a workshop and it was really exciting to have a workshop. I was pumped about it, but I had nobody coming. And so I emailed my tiny list of the time. I said, I'm doing a workshop, it's $5,000 a ticket. And then the first day nobody bought and the second day nobody bought. And third day, one guy bought. And first I was like, "Yeah," and I was like, "Oh crap. Now I have to do a workshop." And there's like one person coming. This is awkward. And then luckily two other people off, I had three people by, I was like, okay, now we have a workshop with three people. And so I called everybody I knew, my friends, my family, everybody. I was like, okay, I'm doing a workshop.
People paid to be here. You have to come and just sit in the audience and don't tell them you didn't pay. Because I need this to look good on video or it's going to be super embarrassing. And so we set it up, we had it all set, and it was not like this. It was really bad. We literally had... The windows behind me were too bright, so we got sheets from the bedrooms and electrical tape sheets. It's so bad. But we recorded and that became the very first course I ever sold was the videos from us at the Holiday Inn with the electrical tape over the sheets, literally behind me, the entire video. And it looked amazing. Okay? So throw a workshop even if no one comes to it, just invite your friends, do it something in your house, bring people in, just record yourself teaching your thing, and you can bundle that in really quickly.
So for videos, we've got screen captures, iPhones and workshops. So here's a real quick recap of the nine ideas, crowdsourcing books, compiling examples, public domain, audiobooks, interviewing, compile hard-to-find audio screen captures, iPhones and workshops. Okay? Tons of easy ways to do that quickly. Okay? So what I'm doing now is I want to actually... I'm trying to think if we should do this or not. I'm going to let you guys do this on your own, but in your paper I handed out, I have this little section here for you guys to figure out what are potential products I could bundle inside of my offer, okay? And this is something we do all the time, every time we have a new product comes out, talked, I talked this last year.
We have bat meetings where we literally send out a bat signal to Vox or if everyone on our marketing team, we all come on Zoom and wherever they're at from around the world and we get in front of whiteboard, what can we create for this product? We could put this in it and this in. We started just dumping out as many different ideas as we can. Okay, so now you guys have, let's say I'm selling this product. What else could we do? Oh, we could interview this guy. I could compile these things here. I could do this. I can make a video, I could do a workshop, we could do it. And all these things you can quickly create to turn this into an offer. Okay?
Now, really quick, I guarantee I know the number one thing going through some of your heads right now is like, well, Russell, that's cool for all the coaches and the consultants and the info product people, but not for me. I'm different. I sell real stuff, right? I sell physical products. I have a local business or whatever your excuse is right now. And I want to shatter these excuses because the biggest thing that's going to keep you guys from having success over this week is the thought of like, "Oh, well, this doesn't apply to me." Okay, I'm excited. I think either tomorrow or the next day we're going to have Jamie Cross who's going to be come up here and speaking. Yeah, Jamie's amazing because two years ago she's getting Funnel Hacking Live. She was sitting in the audience and she sells soap. And I was on stage talking about webinars.
I'm doing this usually about webinars and stories, this whole thing. And every other e-commerce person I'm guessing in the audience is like, this is not for me because I sell physical products. And Jamie said, "How can I make this work for me?" 12 months later, she's on stage getting too calm, a couple awards, 12 months later, she's on stage sharing her story with you. She took this concept of the webinar and made an e-commerce webinar. She didn't say, this isn't going to work for me. How can I make this work for me? And shifted some things and made it work for her and blew up her company. I'm so excited for her to tell her whole story, but I want you guys to think of the same thing. Okay? So I'm going to do an example right now. This is a product that I sell.
This is a physical product called Vigon. How many you guys ever seen this before? The three people on my team. All right. So back in the day when I launched 15 companies in a year, which is a horrible idea, don't do that. One of them was this thing right here. I had a friend who had this company and he was getting in trouble. And this little machine here, if you start getting a cold sore, how many of you guys get cold sores? You feel it tingle, you pull this out, if I can open it, this is a new one so the seal hasn't been cut yet.
All right, then you peel this seal off. All right. So when you open this thing up, when you feel a cold sore coming on, come on. There we go. All right. You open it up and there's these two little electrodes, okay? And you take it and you push the button and then save a cold. So put it on your cold sore and somehow, I don't know how some scientist figured out something. It's actually patented everything. It goes in and zaps the cold sore, destroys it, kicks it in the face and destroys it, and the cold sore never shows up. Okay? Isn't that awesome? How many of guys want one of these right now? Really? Got to get my funnel back up. Anyway, so this is the physical product I sell, right?
And you're like, "Well, Russell, I don't sell information. This isn't going to work for me." But imagine if I did this. How do I turn this into an offer? Okay? This is a physical product. It does what it does.
It's just a thing. And the guy who I buy these from, he sells it to other people. So it's not like I'm not the only one. It's a commodity. There's like 30 other people that sell the same thing. Mine's better.
So, for me, how do I compete against everybody else? Well, everyone's got the exact same thing. It does the exact same thing. So I have to turn this from a commodity into an offer. Because if it's a commodity, I got to be like, okay, well he's selling for 150, I'm going to sell for 130. And then the next is also 120. Crap, 110, 109, 105, boom, boom, boom. Soon this thing's like $90.95, right? Retail, okay? That's the problem with products that are commodities. Or I could say, okay, this is amazing.
This helps with cold sores, but what else could I do with cold sores? Okay, what else could I do? What else could I do? I could go on Amazon and be like cold sores cures and remedies, and I guarantee there's people on Amazon who have written books on how to do cold sores. I can message them like, hey man, you are the definitive expert in cold sores. Can I interview you talking about all the tricks you know how to prevent cold sores from happening? I'm sure there's stuff in your diet and exercise and like, oh yeah.
So I get them on the phone, I interview him. Now it's like, hey, when you buy from anybody, you get the same thing, but you buy from me, you get the cold sore inhibitor. Plus you also get the interview with this dude over here who's the number one highest stars on Amazon writer of a cold sore book. You get his book as well, plus my interview where I actually interviewed him. And then number three, there are seven supplements I found that help get rid of cold sores, seven. There's a whole bunch of people who complain claim the supplements, but there's actually seven that work and there's two that work almost instantly. The second you feel cold sore coming, you pop any of these two pills gone instantly. Okay?
And I wrote a report about those because I want to make sure you get the right ones. If you get the wrong brand, you get the right product, you get the wrong brand, you are screwed. So I'm going to show you the seven supplements as well. So you get this first, plus you're going to get the interview with the number one expert in the world, plus you're going to get the seven supplements, the actual brand names, where to buy them, how do you get the discounts to all the seven supplements? And next thing you're going to get is blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, right? I just take a physical product, I'm bundling information around it to increase the value of the thing. So it doesn't matter if you're selling information or not, if you're selling physical products, it's the same thing. Information is the easiest way to bundle this, right?
The problem with infomercials is the only way they bundle is if you call now, I'll give you another one for free. That's what almost all e-commerce people do. It's like, ah, that's good. But it's like, now I got two of these things. So if I have cold sores, I can have one in my house and in my office.
That's kind of weird, right? But if I bundled information, probably it doesn't increase the cost to you at all, but dramatically increases the value. Now when I'm competing with the 30 other people selling this, I can sell it for higher and people will still buy from me versus everybody else because my offer is better than theirs. Another good example of this is my friend Mr. Stephen Larson, how many of you guys know Stephen?
So this is a good example for any of you guys who are like, "I'm here Russell, but I don't have a product yet." So Stephen, he has his own products, but he's also an affiliate for ClickFunnels. He's an affiliate for a bunch of other things. And so we did the one Funnel Away Launch and TenX launched a couple other things. He said, okay, Russell already created an amazing offer that he's selling, but there's like a thousand of affiliates who are all selling this product as well, right? He said, so everyone's doing this. So how do I compete against this? He said, okay, well here's offer. How can I make my own offer to make it better? People always ask me, "How do you make money as an affiliate, Russell?" The first thing you do is you don't sell the product that they already selling. That's buy Russell's thing.
That's number one on your list. And it's like, now I need to make my own offer. Okay, how many of you guys bought the one Funnel Away challenge from somebody and then bought it again from Stephen later because you wanted his bonus? Okay, how many of you guys have bought twice from Stephen because you want the new bonus the second time? Okay, there's a lesson in this. So even if you don't have a product yet, that's okay. Find someone else for the product. And then how can I now make an amazing offer? What can I bundle together to increase the value of this offer so people buy from me versus somebody else? Or if they did buy for something else, they'll also buy from me. My offer is so valuable. Okay? All right, so this is the exercise for you guys to start doing is going through here and listing out all the ideas you can have. Okay?
So, tonight, this weekend with that paper handy I'll start writing out these things. Start putting them out there and start putting as many as you can think of and make it. The biggest problem you can have is you're putting in your potential products that are going to make an offer is like, oh, that's not going to work. That's not going to work. When you start, be creative. When we first did this, man, probably 12 years ago, we sat in front of a whiteboard and we're doing this and we were at a point where we needed a funnel to save us from everything. It was like the bottom of everything. We have to make the most irresistible offer ever or else we are shutting the doors. So we sat in for a whiteboard. I'm like, hey, what could we give them Mike? Okay, they can fly to my house and I will give them a massage and feed them food and then we're going to do this and we're going to do this.
And we made all this crazy stuff. We had it all on the whiteboard. And then when we started saying, okay, what's the offer actually going to be? We're like, well, I'm pretty sure my wife would be mad if I hadn't come to my house and I give him a massage, so let's not do that one. But it was there, right? And it like, what if we did this? It gave us the time to brainstorm, and then from there we start pulling things over to actually make an amazing offer. Okay? Anytime I create a new funnel, a new thing, I'm always looking at creating an offer, putting as many potential things as possible, and then they can know what am I actually going to create? Pull them into my little stacks lines like, now I know what I need to create to increase this offer. Okay? All right.
Now one thing I want to mention as well, the reason why I have a whole bunch of things as well is because there's more than just one offer in every funnel. You guys understand that? And so I need a lot of stuff that I can give away. If you look at this right here, there's an offer on my ad. I'm trying to get someone to click on something. So I'm like, click on this thing and I'm going to give you a free report, right? There's an offer happening there. Luckily that was one of my ideas I already created. Because I can now pull that down. It becomes this, right? Then they land on my landing page. I'm like, I need their email address because I'm trading them. What am I going to have? Oh, well, I have something up here. I've already created potential products. I'm going to give my interview with so-and-So give your email address.
I'll give you the interview with so-and-so, boom, right? There's the next product. Then it's like, now buy this product. I'm going to give you these five things. Now my upsell is these three or four things. I think so many of us go into this thinking, okay, here's the product I'm going to sell, and then we're trying to build a funnel around it. It's like, no, no, no, understand? It's like you're looking at more like how do you serve your customer and what are all the things you could possibly give them to do that? And then you're breaking down through different parts of the funnel. Okay? All right. So come back to the beginning Hook, Story, Offer. So that was the offer section of this part is the offer. Now we're going to move backwards to the story. So the question then is why are stories so essential to this? Stories also increase the value.
Now a couple of things I want to understand. Number one, for someone to change their destiny, they have to make a decision. Okay? This is true. First off, for all of you, and second off, it's true for all the people you're serving. For someone to change, they're destiny, they have to make a decision. Number two, for them to make a decision, you have to change their state. And then the best way to change their state is through story. So if I take that backwards, I got to figure out how to tell stories so I can change people's states. If I can change their state, then I can help make a decision that's going to empower them. And if I can help them make a decision that's going to empower them, I can change their life. I can change their destiny. That's why stories are so important. Okay?
An offer without a state change is completely useless. If I was like, hey, who wants to go to the movie Captain Marvel this week? Like three of you? Yeah, remember? Then I tell the story and you're like, oh my gosh, I will mortgage my house to fly there for that experience, right? The story is what makes it valuable. So the big secret is storytelling. We've talked a lot about this in our community. This is not unique, but I want to go through this because the story's been weaving to every single thing we're doing. You have to come better and better at better story, okay? For all of you guys who are expert seekers. The next part of this, but I want to share it for those who may not or renew, okay? This is a concept we call the epiphany bridge story. So the epiphany bridge is the thing you're thinking about as you're trying to figure out how to tell your stories, okay?
So the epiphany bridge, this is you. Back before you were whoever you are now, right? This is back when you were in your normal life before you figured out whatever so passionate about today. So, for me, before I learned about this whole funnel thing, I was just at my house hanging out, doing nothing. That was me. And then something happened where all of a sudden you have this aha moment, you're like, "Oh my gosh, this is the thing. This is the thing I was meant to do. This is what I'm supposed to be doing." And then what happens is you get so excited by that thing, you have that moment. So for me, it's happened tons of times in my life. I think about when I was wrestling, you asked my parents who were here in the front row, I used to come home from school every day.
I would eat Rice Krispies and cheers and watch TV. And then in eighth grade, my dad made me sign up for wrestling. I was like, I don't want to be a wrestler. It seems like too much work. I just want to watch TV. And he made me go, made me go. And I had a good time wrestling. I was okay. And the next year, I remember my very first... It was ninth grade, I made it to the JV team. And I remember I went to weigh ins. I was so scared and so nervous. I go weigh in and the guy that I'm wrestling has a mustache. I still to this day, cannot grow a mustache. I don't know why. Anyway, I can't. I remember looking at this kid, I'm like, "He's got a mustache, he's going to destroy me." And I got so scared.
I went to the match. I remember getting in the stadium and it's the JV match. So the only two people in the audience were my mom and my dad. Oh my God. I get out there, I shake his hand and I'm like, "How did this girl facial hair in eighth grade?" Oh my gosh. And so we start wrestling and somehow, I don't know what happens, but at the end of the match, I win, and I stand up and my hand gets raised and I look over to the guy with the mustache and his head's down. I look at my mom and my dad and my dad's freaking out. And I was like, this day is the day I became a wrestler. That was my hot moment. And then only thing I thought about for the next decade and a half my life was wrestling. Same thing happened in business.
I remember I was trying things, trying things. All of a sudden, I remember when it hit me, I was like, "This is my thing. This is what I'm going to do for the next decade of my life." Okay? And my guess is most of you guys have had that moment. That's why you're probably here trying to figure out the rest of the story. So that happens. Then we go on this amazing journey. We're like, this is amazing. And we start studying everything. We start learning. We start geeking out, and the worst thing in the world happens to us. We start understanding why this thing's amazing. And then we have a chance to try to sell somebody on this thing that we love, that we care so much about. We're so excited. And the first thing we do is we take all this techno babble, all this technical stuff we've learned, and we spew it out upon them and they're like, oh, and they get buried this thing and they freak out and they run away.
We logically try to sell them because we're so logically invested in this thing right now. But the reality is that people don't buy logically, you didn't buy logically. My dad didn't convince me. You're going to love wrestling. It's going to be good hell for you. You're going to get stronger muscles, it's going to help you become more resilient in life. You're all these things. That was the logic what sold me on wrestling. Oh my gosh, that felt amazing. I'm in. Something happened to each of you emotionally that got you in. And so for us to be able to convince other people, we have to get rid of all the techno babble. And you have to remember what was the thing, what was the story? What was the reason that got me started on this journey? And as you tell that story and you get people the same epiphany that you had, that's when you're able to change their destiny.
That's when you're able to help them. Okay? So that's the epiphany and birch stuff. If you want to go deeper than that, I talk a lot about Expert Secrets, but that's the core of story. And so for you, it's not coming back and try and logically convince anybody of anything. It's remembering what was the reason why I got so excited about this and sharing that story is was getting people connect with you and then they're going to have the same epiphany you had if you do it and now you can change, and now you can affect, you can move them. Okay? All right, so there's the story framework. Now the next part of story is you have to understand that when we are telling people's story, everyone already has a story, right? About whatever it is. And so if their story is positive, it's a really good thing for them, but the story is negative, it's holding them back. Okay?
So our job as marketers, as funnel hackers is to look at that and say, okay, this story they have, is it holding them back from what I know that they need to be doing? If so, that story is the chain of false belief. It's holding them back. So they have this chain of false belief, there's some experience, something happened to them that made them have these false beliefs. So there's this experience and because of that experience, they've been telling themselves the story over and over and over again. So for you, this is the people you're coming in contact with. They're seeing your Facebook ads, they're coming on your webinars, they're landing hitting your landing pages, they're reading your emails and they have these things. And if you don't break these false chains of beliefs, no matter how hard you try, you'll never convince them to follow you.
It's impossible, right? They have this story. So the only way for you to break them from these false chains of belief is to tell them your story. And if you do this right, then your story trumps their story and then your story becomes theirs. So let me give you an example. So this is my friend. You guys met him a little earlier today. By the way, do you love his socks? That was amazing. Anyway, so Devon last year comes in, he's like, Russell, this is amazing. I got an opportunity for you. It's going to be ground floor opportunity. It's going to be amazing. It's going to change the world. It's going to be awesome. And I'm like, man, I'm in. So Devon signs me up. He's like, all right, your first thing you need to do. See Jim and Pam over there? You got to get them signed up.
I'm like, okay, let's do this. So now I look at it through this lens, okay, so I'm going to sign Jim and Pam up. Now I look at Jim and I'm okay, Jim has got some false chains of belief. There's some reason I'm not going to be able to get him to believe that he should join my network marketing opportunity. What is that? He's got these false chains of beliefs. I got to think, what did he experience that probably kept him from doing that? Did he have a friend or a family member came and annoying him or someone who, or did he? Did he already join a program and he just felt uncomfortable? What was the experience he had? Okay, so for Jim's experience, what happened is he had a friend named Michael Scott who just tackled him and forced him to be in this program.
And he's like, oh, that was a horrible experience. I did not feel comfortable. I did not like it. And so because of that, he created a story inside of his mind and the story created inside of his mind is that all network marketing programs are pyramid schemes. Okay? So that's the story he created. So I can come in here, I can tell him everything I want about ground floor opportunity, the best product, the best technology, the best everything. No matter what I do logically sell him. He will never break that story. It's not worth doing. Okay? Now I'm sharing the story for network marketing. It's true for every single one of you guys, I don't care if you're selling fitness, finance, products, services, whatever it is, this is what's happening. Your customers have a story already. So the only way for you to break their story is you have to come in.
You have to tell a better story that trumps theirs. So if I was going to gym, I'd be like, "Hey man, so why aren't you joining?" He's like, "Oh, this annoying friend. He bugged me and it was horrible." And if I join, I got to bug people and I just don't want to do it. I'm like, no, that makes sense. I was the same way. But what's interesting is that I found out about this really cool thing called the funnel. And I used the funnel. There was this network marketing program I believed in and it was pretty cool. And they were giving away a Ferrari. And I was like, what if I won a Ferrari without ever talking to anybody ever? That would be amazing.
And so I set up a funnel, I launched it, and in 60 days I became the number one money earner in the company and I won this Ferrari and the best things. I didn't talk to a single person ever. Isn't that amazing?
Audience:
Yeah.
Russell Brunson:
Now, if I tell Jim that, if my story trumps his story, he's going to be like, "Oh my gosh, you're saying I could actually have the benefit of this thing without talking to people?" Sign me up. So that's what you have to understand. That's all this whole story thing is about. It's about trumping someone else's false belief. I can trump their false belief, their story shifts, and now your story becomes theirs and now they're free. The chains of false belief are gone.
Now they're free to go pursue whatever you're trying to help them pursue. Okay? All right, so the question is then what stories do I tell? Now this is going to change. We talked about Hook, Story, Offer. Depending on the complexity of the product, depends on how many stories you tell and what stories you tell, right? If it's a very simple product, you tell us story and that's all you need. For more complex things, you have to tell multiple stories. I'm going to kind of walk through that. So the first thing you have to understand is that in every cell's argument, there is what we call the big domino.
Again, if you read Expert Secrets, we talk about this. There's one thing that if I can get them to believe that one thing, all the other concerns just disappear instantly. So when you guys came into my world, the whole funnel world, everyone had false beliefs and things and things, you believed on everything. But if I could somehow convince you that the only way for you to get your goals was a funnel, you have to just kind of like, all right, well I'm in. I got to do it. Everything else just falls away. So, for me, it's like if I can convince people that a funnel is the only way for them to actually get the results they want, then it knocks down all the other dominoes. All the other dominoes fall away or they become irrelevant. Okay? And every sales argument has the same thing. When you're selling something, it's not about trying to answer every single concern possible.
It's figuring out what's the one big domino. If I can address this in my ad, in my video, in my webinar, my letter, if I can address this, if I can prove them that this is true, then all the other dominoes fall down and they have to believe me. And so for all of you guys, you have that. I'm excited. Jamie's going to talk about hers tomorrow. I believe I get hers. You figured out what was the thing she had to get people to believe and boom, it all fell down. Okay? So you got to figure that out. Now after the big domino for your product, your service, then it comes down to there's four stories we typically tell. Now I'm going to show you guys this in a framework of a webinar. And so I'm going to show 15 minutes. I'm going to show how we do it in a 90-minute webinar.
But the same thing happens on a five-minute webinar. It's the same process, just shorter times.
Okay? So the first story we tell is what we call the origin story. The origin story is basically your epiphany bridge story. How did you find out about this thing? Why do you care so much about it, right? So you tell your stories. If I'm doing a webinar, the first 15 minutes of my webinar is me just telling my origin story, my epiphany bridge story about how I fell in love with this thing. So if you watch any of the webinars, these are the slides from the Funnel Hacks webinar that most of you guys have probably seen. The first 15 minutes I'm going through this. I'm just telling my epiphany bridge story about "Oh my gosh, funnels the greatest in the world. Let me explain to you why they are."
And I tell you my whole story, and that's the first goal. Now, what happens is after I tell that story, for some people that was it. Domino falls over and I'm in. Here's my, in fact, I'm curious how many guys, when you first heard me talk about potato guns and funnels, and I told the first story, you're like, I'm a hundred percent in my hyperactives are in, okay? Now ClickFunnels is the more complex sell on a simpler sell. It's easy. How many of you guys, if I just told you my origin story with Vigon here, if I told you, and I've never had a cold source, this isn't actually true. But if I told you, look, I've had cold sores in the past, I've used a breather, I've used things and nothing ever works. They always last for two or three weeks at a time.
It's horrible. It's painful. The worst thing in the world, when I found about this, the first time I tried it, I clicked on the thing, I pulled it out and I felt it tingling like the first day. But it never came out. It never became a cold sore. It was just gone. That was it. And ever since I keep this in my pocket, I take everywhere I go and soon the cold store comes out, I hit it and I haven't had a cold sore actually hit surface since then. How many of you guys, that story alone would've been like, "Sweet, I'm in?" If someone who suffers cold sore, like our sales video for this is literally that. That's it. This is $150 machine. It's a video, two minutes long telling an origin story of the person who actually mentioned it, and that's it. That's all it takes.
Okay? So for simple products, one story, the origin story is all you need and people are in, okay? But as you get more complex offers, you need more. So what happens is there are more complex offer, they push the domino over and they're all excited. All of a sudden they push you, but they're like, oh, these three things block. It's like, "Wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on, I'm in." And all of sudden these three things block it. Okay? So these are the three things. So the first thing, first thing these we call the three core faults police. The first thing is their beliefs about the vehicle. So the vehicle is the thing you're trying to put them into. So for me, the vehicle is funnels, this is the world I'm trying to take you guys into. For some of you guys it's a ketogenic diet.
Some of you guys, it's products that help you with your cold sores. There's some belief about the vehicle they struggle with. The second belief is their own internal beliefs. That may be cool, but I don't think I could do it. Have you ever heard that voice in your head before? "That's cool for them, but I don't know if I could do it," right? And then the third fault's belief is like, well that's cool. I think I can do it, but I know that if I started this diet I could do it, but my wife's going to buy cookies anyway and they're going to the house. There's no way they always blame some external source besides themselves. Okay? So these are the three things that keep people from buying from you. So for me, now I move into and I tell a story to try to trump all three of those.
If I can trump all three of those beliefs, their beliefs become my beliefs and they have to buy, they have to follow you. You have to do the thing you need them to do. Okay? So story number two then, which in a webinar is the next 15 minutes is the story about my vehicle. So same thing, I come back here, I say, okay, what's the chain of false belief they currently have about the vehicle that I'm putting them into? Okay? Then what's the experience? Why do they believe that? Then what's the story they're currently telling themselves? And I think, "Hey, what's my story?" Okay, so oh, you guys will see this video tomorrow. So I got to show them the websites are dead. So, for me, if I go back to this for myself, the false belief is like, well, I already have a website. I'm good, right?
Or I still stuff on Amazon, I'm good. Why do you believe that? Well, I tried to build a funnel, it was really complicated. It didn't work. I put myself on Amazon and I make some sales. It's pretty cool. The story is like, I don't need any complicated stuff. I can just use Amazon. So I got to come back. And the story I tell you is like, no websites are dead. I tell this story and if I did a good job, boom, it falls down. Okay? So in my funnel hacks webinar that most of you guys have seen, these slides right here are all me telling the story about why this vehicle is the greatest thing in the world. My epiphany bridge story about why I believe that I tell that story. At the end of it, my goal is going to be like, oh my gosh, I do need a funnel.
If I get in to say that in their head, I do need a funnel, boom, the internal belief or the vehicle belief is gone. Oh my gosh, I could have success here. Oh my gosh, I could do that thing. Okay? So my stories trumps theirs. Once again, the domino falls. Now, the next thing, so the first one's the origin story, second one's the story about the vehicle. The next one now moves down to the internal beliefs. So they say, "Oh my gosh, you're right. A funnel is amazing, but I can't do it." It becomes internal. I can't do it. I don't have any technical skills. I don't know how to build something. I don't even know what a funnel is for crying out loud, right? So that's the second story. So now, excuse me, the third story. So now I come back, I say, okay, what's the false belief? Why do they believe that?
Well, they believe that for me, again, I'm talking about my product, but plug in your product for this. For me, it's like, well, I've tried technical stuff in the past. I can't even use Microsoft Word. I'm not going to be able to build a funnel. That's what they believe. What's the experience? I tried to do this thing, it didn't work. It was confusing. I wasted time, energy, the stories, I'm not technical. I can't build a funnel. So I got to come and be like, no, it's actually really easy. Here's Grant Cardone.
This guy is the least technical guy on earth. He built an entire funnel, 40,000 veneers, super simple, super easy. And they see that and they're like, "Oh, that actually is really easy. I guess I could do that." So now boom, two things have happened, right? And then here's my slides where I tell that part of the story. Okay?
So now it's happened. Hopefully now I'm going fail. If not, then the last leg. So first they say, cool, the vehicle funnels is amazing and I think I could actually do it, but I don't. They find the external thing. I don't know how to drive traffic. I actually, I probably couldn't figure it out. Okay, they have some kind of external belief. So, for me, the external belief is even if I had a funnel, what would I do with it? I don't know how to do it. I can't get people to come to the, what's their experience? I had a website before. I spent a ton of money on it, bought some Google Ads, nobody showed up and I'm broke. I paid an agency 5,000 bucks and I've got three visitors, I never made any money. They have some experience. The story is this doesn't work.
So I got to tell them my story. So for me, I tell a story about how do we have traffic? And boom, I go through my slides, I tell that part of the story, and if it works, boom, the domino falls and then they follow me. And for all of you guys who are here, obviously the domino fell. That's why we've got 4,500 amazing people here because I was able to break the false police that are holding you guys back. Does that make sense?
Audience:
Yes.
Russell Brunson:
Okay. So after you've told the stories, then the last thing is that you move over to the offer. So I tell the stories, I break all the false police and I move to the offer. I go through the stack and the close, make the special offer and boom, we've got them. Okay? So the framework is simple. There's one big domino. I got to convince it's one thing for me. I got to convince them that funnels is the greatest thing in the world for you. Whatever your thing is, you got to convince them that this type of diet, this type of lifestyle, this type of product is the greatest thing in the world. What's the big domino? If you can get them to believe this, then they have to follow you, figure that out.
And then it's come back. Hey, why do I believe that? What's my origin? Right? Why do I actually believe that? If you don't believe it, you're in the wrong business. You have to believe it at your depth of your soul if you're going to get people to move with you. Okay? So then you tell your story and then you're like, okay, now what's the reason? What's the vehicle I'm putting? What's their false police on that? What's the false police on themselves being able to implement this? What's the false beliefs by the external? You tell those three stories and then you make them the offer.
And that's how it works. All right? Now I want to do something for some of you guys who are watching this is like, "Well, Russell, that's awesome for you because you click on Facebook Live and you just go and you have all this energy and you're amazing and you just sell everybody every single time." How many of ever felt that way about me before? It'd be like, I hate that Russell Brunson. So I have a special message for all you guys. We're all going to laugh at me together.
So I shared this on Instagram, and this is kind of embarrassing, but how many you guys want to see the very first time I spoke on stage? Look at that good-looking dude, his bald head and his puffy shirt and his tie. All right, so this is the very first time I ever spoke on stage. It's like a 32nd clip. And I'm going through this humiliation to hopefully have some of you guys look at this and be like, oh my gosh, if that guy can do this, guarantee, I can do it. So here we go. But what I wanted to talk about tonight is kind of a broad overview, better hopefully help you to better, to get better information of the whole internet marketing business. This is a lot bigger group than I had planned on.
So embarrassing. All right, that was the first time I ever spoke. The next day was the first time somebody let me step on their stage, except for it was like carpet. There was no actual stage. And they're like, you can sell something. I'm like, sweet. And so the next day I had a chance to make my very first offer on stage. And I'm not going to show you guys the whole thing because it's really the very beginning. As I transitioned to me trying to sell, I was like, how much do you guys think I'm going to sell this for? And some guy was like a thousand bucks. And I was like, oh crap, I'm actually selling it for a thousand bucks. I was like, well, it was so bad. Oh, anyway, so you guys are going to see my closing abilities round one. Here we go. Okay, am I getting close on time?
If you do join the affiliate boot camp, we'll give you lifelong training. It's a $47 a month value. You'll get it for free. Who would like a piece of that? Here's my irresistible offer, and hopefully you guys learned a lot from this presentation.
Speaker 3:
Give him a standing ovation. He did a great job.
Russell Brunson:
Look at this. Nobody stands up. Not one person who wants a piece of that the greatest close of all time. All right, so I share that for any of you guys who were just like, I don't know if this is going to work. I'm shy, I'm awkward, I'm nervous. I promise you I was shy, I was awkward. I'm nervous, I still am. I still struggle. But when you believe in what it is you have to sell and you believe what you're doing, you just keep doing it and keep doing it and you get a little bit better and a little bit better and a little bit better.
And it didn't take 15 years. Every single time it got better. And a couple more people started listening, a couple more people started listening and started growing and started growing and started growing. The biggest thing you have to start, you have to start telling the stories. You can't wait. Oh, I'm going to start stories next month, next week, next year. It's like, no, start today. How you guys have a phone again? No one's raising their hand. How many of you guys have a phone in your pocket right now? Okay, you have no excuse. If you want to do a podcast, there's a podcast stuff. You click on it, you talk, and then you click a button. It is on iTunes that fast. You want to do a video, you click a button and then you're on Facebook Live in five seconds or Instagram. You have no excuses. "But Russell, no one's following me."
Exactly. That's the best thing about it at the beginning. Who was there for that event when I spoke? None of you guys were there other than all you guys now saw, but none of you were there, right?
Do you guys understand? Just start. Your people will find you as you find your voice, your people will find you, but you cannot find your voice until you start, until you begin, until you start moving forward. And if I would've started that journey 15 years ago, none of you guys would be here today.
And if I could go back to that awkward, nerdy Russell, the shaved head and a tie who was scared to death of getting on stage, sitting behind, scared to death, and I could go back to my now, grab him and say, look dude, I know this is uncomfortable and it's horrible and it's miserable and you are scared and you are going to fail and you're going to fail and you're going to fail.
And not one year or two years, it's going to be like a decade of this. But in a decade from now, you're going to have a chance to come on stage in front of 4,500 people and you're going to have an opportunity and a voice to be able to change their lives if you don't stop. I would hope I would've listen. Thank you. The biggest thing is I can't have you guys stopping. Okay? I was telling Brandon Poland this yesterday. I saw him at the Inner Circle. Four Funnel Hacking Lives ago, the second Funnel Hacking Live. He was sitting down, so I'd never met him before. And during one of the roundtables of that roundtable came over and he is like, "Hey man, really quick, I need to interrupt."
I'm like, what's going on? He's like, "Just so you know, you've changed my life. You changed my wife's life." I was like, oh cool, thank you. He's like, "No, no, you don't understand. He's like everything. He's like, we're helping people and we're making money. Everything's changed for us." And I was like, that's amazing. And Brandon was one person in the audience. Him and his wife were sitting there. Okay, fast-forward four years now later, Kaylin's, unfortunately not here. She had her first baby, which congratulations to the Poland family. It's amazing.
Fast-forward four years later because Kaylin kept talking and sharing your message over and over and over again. If like 1.5 million people have come into their funnels, over 130,000 women's lives have been changed because of them. Okay? They're making insane amounts of... But the impact they're having on the world is huge because they were sitting in an audience, they heard us talk about this and then they just did it. So for me and for my team, I had this talk to them yesterday before we got started, I said, look, there's a sea of people out here. Every single one of them has the voice and the ability to change somebody's lives. And if we can't affect them, everything we're doing here is a waste. This event's not about me, it's not about us, it's not about my team, it's about each and every one of you guys.
And we're trying to give you the tools and the things you need, but you have to listen and you have to be willing to try it. And it's going to be scary at first. I promise you that. It's still scary to me. I was back stage here freaking out a few minutes ago, okay? I feel more comfortable now, luckily. But you have to understand it's going to be scary. But if you don't do it, if you don't take that step, you're not going to be here next year. I don't want you just here next year. I want you up here next year. I want you telling your story, getting your award. That's why we do this every single day. Okay? All right, a couple more things.
All right. Just so you guys understand, again, if you're selling a product, you don't have to do the huge thing. The simpler the product, the easier it is. For example, do you guys see that pitch right there? You see that marker in my hand? Okay. If I was going to say, how many of you guys will give me, I don't know, five bucks for this marker right now?
Audience:
Yes.
Russell Brunson:
A couple of you guys. Okay, I'm going to tell you guys a story about this marker. I'm going to tell you a story and the story will increase the value of this marker. Okay? So a couple of... When we first were starting new events, I remember I would show up and they always have those little and narrow white boards and they're likes are vertical. And we draw funnels. Funnels are vertical, right? So you're like page number one, page number.
You're like, ah, I'm out of space. You flip it and it's like horrible to diagram of funnels. And I was doing that. He flipping the thing over, flipping it over. I had these little tiny markers and they're little tiny and you couldn't see it very far. And it just felt weak. And then I went to Tony Robbins event and Tony had a board like this. And then he pulls out this marker and Tony's hands are like this big anyway. And he pulls out this marker and he unsheathes it. He walks over to the whiteboard and he starts doing this thing and he's just doing X's and circles and he wasn't making no sense whatsoever, but it looks so cool. And I remember I was like, "Oh my gosh, this is amazing." And so we started Funnel Hacking Lives. First off, I wanted to... Tony had a board this wide.
We need a board like that. And I tried for years to try to find one. I remember one day I was complaining to Melanie, who's my assistant. I was like, Melanie, he must've custom-built this thing. And then she's in Google or doing some magic and five minutes later she's like, found it. I'm like, what? And next thing we know, we had this board here, and then I do the boards. The very first time I have these little tiny markers and I'm like, I feel so weak. I want to feel like Tony, I need a man marker. And so she starts googling, she finds some markers ship.
I'm like, no, these are good, but I need Tony man markers. And so finally she finds these things and look at this thing. This thing is amazing. And so these are now my man markers. And I will not speak at events when I travel with events. I bring my man markers. I don't want to be on stage like little dainty ones. And so I have these huge man markers. And so I've got red man markers, blue man markers, black bond markers, and I only have three of them here right now. How many of guys want to a man marker?
I can't sell these. We have to have these for the rest of the event. But you see how a story increase the value. That's what I'm talking about. You tell a good story, it increases the value of whatever you're selling. So you have to come better at telling stories. You have to be better at making offers, better at telling stories because both those things intrinsically increase the value of what it is you're trying to sell. Okay? Now, when you're selling more complex offers, that's when you need to have a bigger thing where you're having internal beliefs, the vehicle, internal, externals. The more complex the product is, the longer the sales process is. Okay? All right, so for you guys, your homework as well in your paper here is start writing down. You need to start building a story inventory. What are all the false beliefs that my customers have?
And start writing those things down. Then why do they believe that? What's the story they're telling themselves? And then what story do I have that would trump their belief? Okay, I've been telling this ever since the expert Secrets came out almost two years ago. I've been talking about this over and over and over again. Very few people do it, but guess what? I know the people that are doing it, I'm watching them. I'm watching the story telling, watch what they're doing. I'm watching the process. I do this all the time. When I got started, Dan Kennedy told me this. He's like, you need to build inventory of stories. And I heard that. And instead of doing, most people then said, that's a good idea. I said, Dan said it. I must do it. Got a pad of paper. I was like, what stories do I have?
And I had nothing. I had a potato gun story. That was it. Started to have my potato gun story. I'm like, that's all I got. But now I had my notebook with my potato gun story and I started thinking, okay, as I start talking and started doing my thing, something amazing happened. My life, I'm like, that could be a story. Write it down. And I go to the next thing. Something's happened. Something happened like, oh my gosh, that could be a story. Write it down. It could be a story. Write down, could it be a story? And next thing I know, I can stand at station for 90 minutes and have 400 stories without even knowing about it, right? But it comes down to just telling story after story after story. But you have to start that now. Okay? So if you have your phone, open up a note section to say my story inventory.
And as you are living life, every time something's happening, don't be like, "Oh, that was cool." Like, "Oh, that was cool." How did that relate to my customers? Oh my gosh, if I sold this. That's how it relates. Boom. Okay? I just thought I could tell a story about a marker and make it relevant to you somehow. Yet I did. Right? Okay. It's all about that. Okay, Hook, Story, Offer. Okay, I'm going to go to the last steps. We talked about offer. We talked about story. The last piece in this is the hook.
Okay? So what is the hook? To understand this really well? I want you guys to imagine what happened right before you probably came into this room. You were in the bathroom and you were sitting like this and most of you had your phones and you're going like this.
So what a hook is, it's the thing that makes you stop like "Whoa." That's the hook. This is how I judge my hooks. I imagine all of you guys swiping, what's going to make you like, whoa, hold on. All right, I got to finish so I can find out what that thing is. Okay? This is literally what's happening. In case you're wondering like, "Oh no, my customers don't do that." They do. I was in the airport two days ago. I walk into the airport and for the women, I'm so sorry that you have to find out about how gross and disgusting men are, but there's a dude swiping while he's... And I was like, seriously put in your pocket for 30 seconds, it doesn't take that long. It was just amazing. That's what they're doing. And so you had imagine this is what's happening in today's world.
It's not they're sitting their desktop studying you and reading things and researching. What's happening is this. And so they're flipping through their phone and they're seeing their friends and their pictures and their profiles and their cat videos and thing after thing, after thing after thing. And your ad has a shot in there for one second, probably less in the middle of the scroll. Okay? If you don't stop them right there and they don't say, hold on, put the phone down. I got to come back and check this out. You failed. Okay? The hook is the key. Without a good hook, nobody will ever hear your story without a good story. No one will care about your offer.
Now the hook in and of itself does not provide, not increase the value. The hook does not increase the value of what it's you're selling. Where the hook does is it grabs your attention long enough that they'll listen to your story. The story increases the value, and then the offer increases the value. The hook grabs them just long enough you can tell them the story. So every story you have has multiple hooks. This is why it's so important for you guys to be publishing and putting things out there all the time. Because I have no idea what hooks are going to land. Which ones are people going to resonate with, which and which ones don't.
I was at a retreat, like a mastermind group with Brendon Burchard and Dean Graziosi seen a bunch of really cool people, both of who are going to be here this weekend speaking with you guys. It's going to be amazing. And we're sitting around the campfire and Dean told this story that was so good. He said, essentially he said, if you look at a comedian, you see them on the Tonight Show.
And they pick up the microphone, they do their thing and they do the thing and they land it. And everyone's like, "Oh my gosh, this is the funniest person on earth." He says, you only understand is the comedian just get up there and do his thing. What happened is two years prior he, he went to a dive bar over here.
He wrote 10 jokes, got in front of 30 people and he tried his thing and he tried it and he told joke, one, two, three, four, five. One of the 10 jokes landed. He's like, okay, that joke was good. The rest were horrible. Goes back to his apartment, writes nine new jokes. Scott's me 10 new jokes goes next eye bar gets in front of it. Boom, he does it, nails the joke because he knows it's amazing nails. The other nine two. The other nine worked, right? He's got three good jokes. Then he goes back, rewrites the other seven, comes back the next night, boom. He keeps doing it. He keeps doing it. He keeps doing until he knows he's got 10 of the most amazing jokes in the world. Then he gets on the big stage and performs and every single joke lands. Okay? So same thing what we're doing right now, I have no idea what hooks are going to work. So what do I do when I hear a story in the morning?
I jump on my phone, I get my phone out as I'm driving to the office and half of you guys are Russell. Don't drive while you're podcasting. It's like a block and there's no anything anywhere. I wish I could show people that I get anyway, whatever. So I'm doing my thing talking and I tell the story, right? That's my first time. Then I come in, I see Dave and Dave's like, oh. And I'm like, oh, I tell your story. I tell Dave the story I tell a little differently this time, and I'm like, okay, that works. It made sense. He got excited and I go out to the bullpen with all the marketing teams and I tell them the story and then I jump on a Facebook app. I tell the story that I tell it four or five times until I know how to tell a story.
I see what lands, I see what hooks, got people interested. Or if I tell a story and Dave's like, oh, that's really cool. I'm like, crap, Dave's not flipping out, it's not a good story. And that's how we know. So it's testing these things, testing it, testing it, okay? So when you have a story, it's like you're putting out different hooks. Which of the hooks that people are grabbing onto, what are the ones they're interested? What ones that people actually pay attention to? They're like, cool. Now we'll build things bigger on those, okay? But you got to be practicing stuff all the time because if you're like, this business has to work, it's got to be perfect. I don't want to screw this up, so I'm going to wait until I tell my story. I'm going to wait, I'm going to wait. It's the equivalent of walking up on the Tonight Show and be like, I've never tested this material.
Let's go. You would never do that, right? Yeah, we do it in our businesses all the time. You can't do that. You got to be telling the stories. Telling the stories, okay? Every single one of you guys in here should be Facebook Live in your experience today. Seriously, if you're not, why did you waste that experience? There's some story that impact that will impact you today, if not me, by somebody else that affects your life and your customers directly. And you better be talking about that tonight when you get home. Either podcasting, video, Facebook life, something to start practicing. It begins tonight. Doesn't begin manana because manana never comes. Okay? All right, so how do you find the hooks that you want to model? So next time you guys are doing this, and you shouldn't do this, it's really disgusting, but maybe you're at your desk doing this.
As you're scrolling through, look at the stuff that stops you. Okay? Look at the stuff stop you. Like why did that hook work? What was it? Okay, the 30 days book was not my idea. Someone else had a 30 days thing in another industry. I was like, that's a good idea. He hooked it over there. I'm going to hook it over here because it made me stop. Okay? After you find an ad instead of just looking ad, that's a really good ad. Then you go to the ad and Facebook is on the coolest thing in the world. Now there's a little tab here, it says ads and info. You click on it and it literally shows you every single hook that that person is running right now. So if you click on that right now, you would see here's the couple of the hooks that Russell and John and the team are currently running.
Russell, that's a lot of ads. Yeah, we're throwing out insane amounts of hooks every single day.
Okay? And you can do this with any advertiser. You see their ad on Facebook, you click their thing and it'll show you here's every ad that they're actively running right now. And you can see all the hooks. So every time someone hooks you stop, pay attention, go look at the thing and look at all the ads and start studying and start looking and start geeking out. Okay? This is a lot of ads. How many do we have on here?
All right, now I was doing this last night, one in the morning, I still work on the slides. I was like, how do I really sink this in? And I started thinking about the two Comic Club winners, the Comic Club X winners. I was like, I'm going to show you some examples of some of these, right? Because you hear these people all the time, you see their pictures, you hear the stories, you're like, this is amazing. I want to Comic Club. But how many of you guys have actually looked at the hooks that they're throwing out? Okay?
If they're in the two Comic Club, two Comic Club X means they're insanely good at Hook, Story, Offer, otherwise they would not be here. Right? So we should be looking at, so I started looking, I'm like, I'm just going to pull a couple of random people. So the first one I pull here is Drew. Is Drew in the room right now? I think he is. All right, so this is amazing. So, Drew, one's coming called Fit to Fat to Fit. Have you guys seen his ads before? So Drew is a personal trainer who was ripped and amazing, and I might be telling the story wrong, it's awkward these in the room, so hopefully I tell it, right? But he was ripped and amazing and his clients are like, "Well, you've never been fat, so you don't know what it's like." And he's like, "Oh yeah? This is what I'm going to do. I'm going to get fat, super fat."
So he gained a whole bunch of weight to prove to everybody went from being fit to getting really, really fat and then losing all the weight again, probably not healthy in retrospect, I'm guessing. But that is an amazing hook. So you see, here's every a thousand different weight loss offers out there. hey, I'm sexy, I'm ripped. You see Drew sitting here with Jay Leno and he is like, I want from being Fit to Fat to Fit and shows the before. Now it's like that hook is amazing. Okay? Boom. Two Comic Club X winner. Okay? This is Natalie. Remember Natalie Hodson from last year? There's Natalie right here, okay? Two Comic Club winner. She's getting close to two Comic Club X. Same thing, right? No, what's interesting, so Natalie's business prior to this was a good business, right? She had good hooks, good story, good offer. It was doing well, but never amazing, right?
But then she came back and she's like, okay, what's the hook? What's the story? What is it? And she shifted from her other business that was doing okay to this. And you guys remember Natalie's story? She talked about vulnerability last year. She talked about how she was doing this live video and she peed her pants during it, which is like the most humiliating thing ever, right? And then she turned that into a product teaching women how to control that and went from zero to two Comic Club winner in four months. Because the hook, right?
Find a better hook. Again, if your funnel's not working, it's always either hook, a story, or an offer. Okay, that hooks amazing or story is insane, and the offer was amazing. Million dollars in four months. Okay? Garrett White there in the middle. Here's the landing page I found of his, one of my favorite landing pages. How's this for a hook? Attention married businessmen, learn how to unlock nearly unlimited sex, power, and money without having to cheat on your wife. Get a divorce, ignore your children, leave your church date with drugs or party like a rock star in Las Vegas. What?
How do you not click on that as a man? I can have everything I want in life without all the bad stuff. This is amazing, right? He's a master at hooks. If you look at anybody in these clubs, anyone who's on stage, people that are doing what you want to do, you guys, they're amazing at Hook, Story, Offer. And if you want to be on stage, you have to become better at Hook, Story, and Offer. Okay? So as you're telling your stories and you start building inventory, what are the hooks I can test out, test out this, test out this. And my question is, how many hooks are you guys actually throwing out? You need be throwing out a lot. Okay? Hook, Story, Offer. And then one last thing I want to show you guys. If you look at this Hook, Story, Offer, this is happening at every single step in your funnel, okay?
Your ads, there's a hook, a story, and an offer in your ad, some of the story there's a hook. You're telling a quick story, you make an offer, click here, there's the offer. Then they come to your landing page, there's a hook, there's a story, there's an offer. Then they come, they buy your product hook, story offer, upsell, hook, story offer. Like this framework is essential for you guys to master. It's so simple. That's why I want to start today with, it's so simple, but it's the most important thing. You do it over and over and over and over again. If something is not working inside your funnel, it's always either your hook, your story, or your offer. Okay? I don't care what funnel it is. We're going to learn about a ton of funnel types this weekend, okay? You're going to learn out challenge funnels and summit funnels and book funnel, all hundred funnels.
It doesn't matter which one it is, this framework fits into every one of these funnels. Okay? And the last one to mention is the Hook, Story, Offer, this is the key. Hook, Story, Offer is the thing that grabs somebody, brings them into your world. And after you have them, the next phase then is how do we increase the value? How do we help these people along the line, okay? In the books you guys got yesterday, I actually printed out a copy of our value ladder. See, this is our value ladder, and the person speaking after me is Stacey Martino. I'm so excited to have her here. She's going to be... Yeah, you guys going to love Stacey, but she's a master at taking people up to value. How do you take people after you've hooked them, you got them into your world? How do you love them?
And give enough value they want to continue to progress with you throughout everything else you're doing.
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